haha so am I and I bought it through fulcrum....
the only difference is the billet upper mounts but apparently the valving and spring rates didn't need to be changed for Australian roads
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haha so am I and I bought it through fulcrum....
the only difference is the billet upper mounts but apparently the valving and spring rates didn't need to be changed for Australian roads
mmm... any of you got pillowball upper mount with your ss? got the product code?
Chris F.....did I read somewhere that your car was used in the R & D of the Tein ss for Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
If so I presume that you would be aware of the TRUE situation regarding any difference between the Jap spec
(as you say, listed for the CL7) and the supposed improved and revalved (according to Fxxxxxx ) Aus spec version.
Yep that's right.
Like I've been saying, I spoke with them after they'd had the car and fitted the suspension and they told me no re-valving change of spring rates was needed for Australian road conditions.
For other makes and models they needed to change things around a bit but and as a whole they have resorted the TEIN range of coilovers that are officially being brought into Austalia.. for the euro however no changes were necessary.
Also, Tein SS don't always come with billet upper mounts but those bought through fulcrum do.
Hmmm
Thanks for that reply Chris F
It appears then that in Australia, the distributors of the "Aus spec" Tein are being told incorrect information and passing this on to customers.
My very recent information, which apparently came direct from Fxxxxxx, is that "after purchasing a Euro for R&D and making changes to the valving", they have incurred huge expenses and intend to protect their financial committment.
What a load of fxckxn' crap!
Ppl need to know the truth... your a legend Chis F for having the inside knowledge.
.....the truth is out there...........lol
Well this was when they first started bringing the suspension over, and what I posted is exactly what i was told at the time.
It may be that they've since changed there mind and updated the design?
I wouldn't be able to tell you because I haven't spoken to or dealt with them for a year or so now.
I think someone who works at fulcrum was on the forum once before so hopefully they can clear that up?
but so far that's the story
Does anyone have the Tein SS installations instructions in English? My install is tommorow and its all in Japanese!
A link to it or i can PM my email if you guys will be kind enough to help me. Cheers
Nah its ok found it here for TSX http://www.tein.com/ti/inst/ka64u.pdf should do the job. cheers
Read somewhere that Australian distributors may refuse to fix any problems with the tein coilovers if they arent the Aus-sepc. Is this true, or is that in regards to warranty?
Also, can coilovers be repaired at any suspension shop (located in Sydney)?
hahah...just want clues before i get myself a set of Tein ss possibly jap-spec
cheers
Mine going great. I think mine are Jap as there were fron hong kong. Im not worried about warranty. In 2-3 years from now i'll have either sold the car or theres dozens of places that can rebuild shocks, its not rocket science...
Its a warranty issue only.
You can't expect to buy something overseas that does not carry an international warranty and have a local dealer fix it. Things like laptop computers are the exception with world wide warranties, but if you buy a TV or something from japan and expect panasonic in Australia to fix it under warranty you'd be pretty much pushing sh!t up hill.
I know that Fulcrum can get parts from TEIN japan for anything you send to them, but be prepared to pay the bucks for them to do so.
did u end up buying from top racing as well? hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
Before buying my Jap-spec tein coilovers I verified that there are Aussie shock repairers who obtain their parts from overseas. (and not thru Fulcrum)Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
Make a few phone calls like I did to locate a local Tein rebuilder. I was quoted $165 for a rebuild for Jap-spec as against $220 for Fulcrum to rebuild "aussie spec"...lol
Just wondering where would be the cheapest place to get some Tein SS for the Euro? and rough prices i should be looking at so i know a ball park figure.
Does anyone know if its true that they've Discontinued the Tein SS Coilovers for CL7/CL9?
not sure, haven't heard of that before. i got mine about 1or2months agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Pumped
Speak to Edward from edw-r, he is a trader on Ozhonda.
I purchased a set of Tein SS coilovers about 4 weeks ago, very happy with service and price :D
Ditto......Quote:
Originally Posted by ENVSSS
try Edward............Got mine back in Jan. from him too.
sure will...have spoken to edw-r for quotes and all before but not in regards to maintenance issues.
cheers guys for all the input!!
I am thinking of getting my TEIN SS from www.TSXParts.com unless someone can recommend where I can get them here in Perth. The TEIN state distributor over here wants over $2200 just for the parts, then fitting and alignment is extra. Way too expensive for my liking, I can buy the SS for $950US and with the dollar good going at the moment including shipping it will be way less than getting them here.
how much do they charge for shipping?
any ideas?
$950US equals $1200 in Oz dollars I have just worked out. Shipping is purely based on weight of the goods. I ordered my UR Pulley from this place 2 months ago and the shipping was $55US which wasn't too bad. Even if they want $300US for the shipping it still works out a lot cheaper than buying it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumped
I wonder if buying it from Japan is cheaper again?
try get a quote from some of the traders here and you will be surprise:thumbsup:
I am not that happy with Tein SS, I put it to the lowest height and softest damper.. but still the quality of ride is still harsh..
What size wheels and profile tyres have you got?Quote:
Originally Posted by vippy84
There seems to be a mixed reaction to the TEIN SS coilovers in this forum. Currently I have the lowered springs and aftermarket shocks set up and ride is ok, a little harsh over some bumps but most of the time it's quite a comfy ride.
My performance retailer recommended me to change and get the TEIN's but reading quite a few comments in here, I'm in two minds now ... Hmmm
Coilovers are good if you regularly track your car but if you mainly drive on our shit roads then a good spring/shock combo is the way to go.
Sorry for hijacking but what is the combo for getting rides better than stock. I do a lot of highway drives now and the rough highways are really annoying me. Lots of jarring. Everytime i come to a smooth patch... it's like heaven!! btw, I don't want air suspension.
Bilstein/Eibach combo FTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^__^ SM ^__^
IMO, Tein SS is very very very comfy if set at the lowest. are u sure it is set at the lowest? if im not mistaken, u turn the knob anti-clockwise all the way. my ride with tien ss was more comfy than having koni's + H&R springs in my old ride.
You should only turn the knob the prescribed number of "clicks" from the hardest setting (16). If you just turn it all the way anti-clockwise you may damage the shocks as this will go past the the recommended adjustment range which will usually be anywhere from 22-26 clicks.
Quote:
Originally Posted by docker
If u have a look on ebay u can get the ss for $950US and $350US for shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-...spagenameZWD1V
P.S does that warrent a PQ ???
+1 broQuote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Hi GuysQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
Thinking of purchasing Tein SS for my Euro.... what exactly does the pillow upper mounts do??? Improve handling? Softer ride??
want to find out if i should get with or without pillow upper mount...
cheers
With the upper pillowball mount, you don't have to remove the stock mount from your stock suspension to use with the Tein SS. The Tein pillowball mount will improve steering response, but can give you a knocking sound as the polyurethane bushing is worn. Mine is knocking and it sounds like blown shocks!Quote:
Originally Posted by drezy
hmmm, thing is.. if i do end up buying without the upper pillow mounts.. is it bad for the stock mounts?? like will they wear out after a while?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
No, it won't wear out unless you end up with a lot of negative camber by lowering it too much. Even so, you should get a rear camber kit to get proper camber settings. The front camber doesn't change much when lowered, so you won't need a kit for the front. The reason why the Tein pillowball mount knocks is because it is hard. As you wear it in, the tolerance gets a little larger and when polyurethane hits metal, you get a knocking sound. The car still drives fine and stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by drezy
Thanks for the info.. much help... I'd rather not get a knocking sound so ill get without pillow upper mounts... also... where do u reckon i can get a camber kit from and how much do they go for roughly?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
No it doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by euro1986
I got the Ingalls rear camber kit from here (good seller and it arrived within 5 working days of postage): http://cgi.ebay.com.au/03-HONDA-ACCO...QQcmdZViewItemQuote:
Originally Posted by drezy
I dont use the mounts. Mine fine. I got mine for WAY less than $1400USD by using a dealer here.
Wooo hoo ! Just ordered tein ss for my euro and now just waiting for them to arrive. Are they hard to install or should i get it done professionally?
Ive ordered a few things off this guy in the past,Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Great to deal with! :)
Me too. Thats the ebayer I got my ingalls from. Hes good.
its not a bad time to buy things from the US but the shipping will still slam you pretty hard
those ingalls i gotta admit are pretty good value
What settings have you guys got on your Tein SS.
I have 10 at the fronts. Thats 6 clicks counter-clockwise from the max 16 setting.
Im not sure about the rears. Ill probably try 6 for the rears. Thats 10 clicks counter.
Any suggestions?
I've got mine set on setting 10 front and back.
Bumpy roads in my area
Front 7
Rear 9
Thats the number of clicks back from the max of 16 at the full clockwise yes?
I went the full range then started at the midway point which is 8.
(damn forgotten now!...anti-clockwise is fully hard and clockwise is fully soft?, haven't touched them for 6 mths)
Setting of 8 IMHO is pretty equal to stock.
So in my case I've gone 1 click softer on the front and 1 click harder on the rear than stock.
This seems to work well over the bumpy roads in my area being a bit more forgiving in the front.
Full clockwise is hard. Full anti-clockwise is damper damage. You can only use the first 15 clicks from the hardest setting.
I see.Then the issue when discussing this is always.
Is fully clockwise fully hard setting 16 ( as i believe)
Or is fully soft, turned anticlockwise 15 clicks setting 16 ?
Fully clockwise is level 16 (hardest). So turning it anticlockwise 15 clicks gives you level 1 (softest).
BUT! If you have the old silver coloured EDFC, Level 0 is hardest and Level 16 is softest, for some weird reason. Maybe that's why they discontinued it and released the new black coloured one.
Hi all, I've been quoted a set of Tein SS for the Euro including fitment and laser wheel alignment for $2450 in Sydney. Is that about the right price?
I bought mine here this year and with installation cost $1480 + alignment.
Don't pay the inflated price of coilovers imported by the distributor, buy them here like 99% of members do.
Do a search of sellers.....
go to max-hondapower gives really good deals
JDMyard sell it for $13XX
install should be $50 per corner.
thanks guys.
Advice needed!!
Didnt want to start a new thread since there are so many lowering threads already.
Anyways, do u guys reckon its worth it lowering the car by just 25-30mm?
Does it make much of a difference in terms of looks?
If anyone has that kind of drop on their euro could u post some pics. :D
cheers
25-30mm is about what king springs will offer.
Before coilovers i had king springs in, it sat alright,
looked much lower then stock, standard with 19 inch wheels the car sat so high!
with the drop it was alright, not low low but looked good and took out some of the top roll.
Before
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5990/beforesz2.jpg
After
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/6535/afterby6.jpg
From the two pics the drop looks huge :p
hey cheers for that Pumped :D
If i do lower, will only go for Tein ss. Anyone have anymore pics lol
Tein SS and Whiteline Installed: http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3791/side1xd7.jpg
And Before Tein ( stock height) :
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1183/sidesidefq8.jpg
how much is ur car lowered by suntzu?
Is ur car lowered 40mm up front and 30ish rear?
I dont really know actually. But yeah about 40mm all round at least. Its a really perfect set-up for me, looks the goods and clears most driveways and esp. clears speed bumps easy. Took a few weeks of testing to get it right. I'm all about function not necessarily looks.
Here's mine on the left on Tein SS with a 45mm drop, next to another on the right stock with suspension.
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7...4593nb1.th.jpg
nice pics guys. maybe we should start a suspension upgrade thread lol
Yup, I'm the one and only mugen sport :p
So just reviving an old thread here...
Where is the best place to purchase CL9 'Tien SS' coilovers in Sydney right now?
And where is the best place to fit? The only place I know of is Hannie's.
Anyone know about Tein Monoflex? Like how do they compare with SS,Flex and how is the ride comfort? Thank you.
Cheers
Tein flex - 14/8 (front/rear)
Tein mono - 16/10
Tein SS - 10/6
Stock i think is 6/4. Tein CS are 7/4 if you want close to stock. But pricey.
I have SS and its pretty close to stock imo.
PM benjamin, he installed my coilovers for a very good price and good quality job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petronas
Top bloke too! :thumbsup:
Thanks for that. I'll contact him when I find a Euro I want to buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
Sorry for sounding noob but i dont know what those numbers mean, im guessing the closer to 6/4 the closer the ride comfort is to stock? And thus the tein mono's feel alot more harsher i assume than stock?Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
yeah the higher the spring rate the harder/stiffer the springs will be. You really need to ride in a car with the coilovers to tell how much stiffer the ride feels. My tein ss feels close to stock, and i use it as a daily. None of my occupants, gf, parents, bro really noticed a deterioration to ride comfort compared to stock. I know members with buddyclub N+ which is similar to tein flex in spring rates, and they find it comfortable.Quote:
Originally Posted by ck.kyo
If you're after a slammed look, tein flex or N+ are what i would go for. If mild-medium drop and want close to stock spring rates, SS for price and tein CS if you want better quality.