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actually, the carsguide review is based on the civic in NZ. they are getting their civic from japan, which includes a whole lot of other goodies like the VSA, etc.
OZ is getting the civic from thailand, and the price list says 29,990 for the 2.0 sport manual. think we MAY get the manual 2.0.
What a load of crap!Quote:
Originally Posted by integraz
I noticed you intentiaonally left off the Porsche 911...so it's not a "sports car" because it has tiny rear seats....what about Mazza Coupes, or the M3 BMW, etc, etc (the list goes on)?
That's right, they're not sports cars, just "sporty" cars with a bit of stick and 4 seats
:rolleyes:
By the way, the Civic is not a sports car....my Jazz is!
well, not even the engine mounts are the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by integraz
auto engine mounts and the TypeR engine mounts are not the same
whoops my bad about the engine mounts then...
um 911s are classified as coupes or GTs and also the m3
skylines are classified as GTs[grand tourer], hence GT-R?
what I'm tryin to say is that this is what they really are, nowadays its abused and any 2 door car/ fast performance car is called a sports car.
To me, sports car are cars that are track-orientated. They don't need to be hard edged, but have features that give it an advantage on track. It could be handling, power, weight. So in this category, the M3, MX-5, Type R, NSX, 911, Ferraris except for the 550/575, Skyline, and even the lowly Mini Cooper S (John Works version) qualify.
Unfortunately, the Civic sports is not a sports car to me. But it is a sporty car. Now, if Honda went and gave it suspension that was specially tuned for the track like the Type R's, then I'd put it into the sports car category.
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Originally Posted by MiSloVic
wat u mean we may? We have got the manual!
I get my demo next week :D
Just saw all models of the new Civic at the motor show. Couldn't believe it. The cabin and boot area is the same size as the Accord Euro Sport on display! Check it out yourself. Note also that the VTi-L also has audio control on the steering wheel. However, the mirror integrated indicator lights is only on the Sport and Hybrid models. A couple of things I don't like are:
1) The cloth trim on the VTi and VTi-L looks terrible. Bring back the velour.
2) No gas struts to hold the bonnet on all models, only a cheap skate rod.
I was disappointed that the clusters could not be lit up. Sales person said it was "motor show" rules. However, in other cars (eg. Lexus, Toyota) the clusters could be lit up on request.
When the first EK4 was released here in australia it cost ~$32000.Quote:
Originally Posted by civicCXI
Its been 6 years since the last VTIR, ever since then every Civic since has been very poor. Im for one very happy to see a K20 DOHC Civic in the showrooms.
Bring on the Mugen Civics!!
There are only four speakers in all Civic models. Even the Swift has six speakers!
anybody know any weights? no point having the power if they have put on even more weight
that's not the point..Quote:
Originally Posted by AF1
there's different K20 engines, and this one in the new Civic Sport is not the one with the agressive cam.
Meh. I was hoping the Sports model would be the uk model:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...CivicSport.jpg
But no dice... disappointing really.
http://www.hondacivic.com.au/assets/car_civic_sport.jpg
:(
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Originally Posted by Tofu
Yep its only the 119kw K20A3... instead of the quicker K20A2, K20Z1, or K20Z3.
K engines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_K_engine
saw one for the first time yesterday at the Melbourne motor show. The outside is nothing special but the interior...PWHOAR !!!!
The UK model is the hatch. Honda Aus didn't bring it in because the price would be too expensive. But they did mention that they were looking at interest for next year (carsguide article).
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Originally Posted by EuroDude
Thats good news :) Bring on the AUDM Honda Civic Euro :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Hope the price is good. If the Civic Sport hits $30000, imaging the Civic Euro Sport! $40000 of goodness. :D I'd definitely go for an Euro Lux then.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
the vti and vtiL are just too bare. but to spend 30000+OTR for civic sport, I would go for the euro...
What I dont understand is why cant they simply manufacturer the UK design in Thailand?
As far as I know, the Civic hatch was designed by the UK team. Why they have to manufacture it there, I have not a clue... :confused:
Dame the UK model is butt fugly. We dont need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude