BTW, those who watched yesterday. Did you hear how they made the brake discs? Takes about 8 weeks!
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BTW, those who watched yesterday. Did you hear how they made the brake discs? Takes about 8 weeks!
fisichella start from last position to finish 5th
BIG UPS!!!
yet he brakes later on most corners later than nearly everyone in the field? :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by TYPE-ONE
jensen is a mad driver, he just needs the car a lil better to compete with the renaults and mclarens
yeh they bake the rotors for 3 weeks then machine them then another 3 weeks in the oven. Crazy!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
One of the guys from OzHonda pushed Button's car to the finish line :DQuote:
Originally Posted by chicken8
it was funny to see micheal run into the toyota shed to get away from the media :) after his fu.ck up
From what I heard in the process, they put the carbon into a mould and then bake it at high temperature with pure methane gas. The carbon from the methane gas fuses with the solid carbon to increase the density. After 3/5 weeks they take it out to machine. After machining, they put it back with methane gas for another 3 weeks. Imagine to cost of heating up the discs for a whole 6/8 weeks!!! The reason they machine it halfway is because the discs are too hard to be machined after 6/8 weeks. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by underc35a
pads are made by the same materials as the rotors
dun they do that for all civics?Quote:
Originally Posted by underc35a
Damn Schumi. He just keeps on getting worst and worst every time. And when it seems like there's a glimpse of hope, it is all washed away in a spectacular catastrophe.
man what a way to end for Honda... but button sure did put on a show on the last lap.. lol... now everyones gonna say honda's are unreliable
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GOT VTEC??? :eek:
Bugger, I think I am going to be on 0 points at the end of the season still!!!!! Is there a prize for gaining such a great result!??
At one stage, I didn't think we would even have a top 8 with all the crashes etc. But it was a good race, except for the result! :(
I'll post some pics once I get back home to Brisbane... I even got a pic of the inside of Trulli's car :) Pretty cool to see.
it was my double round too
thank god alonso at least got me a point
but he didnt get fastest lap. what a loser. i could be on 4 points
NEURTOIC - A good race, but alonso didnt die. Sucker
SHATTERED!! badluck button.. was the first f1 i attended & i loved it! totally maaad shiiieeet.. :)
man .. we're bak to where we were last year.... hopefully it was only for this round n they can get the tyre temp issue sorted out... first lap pace is shocking! :thumbdwn:
ffs... so shattered.. it HAD to happen in the final two corners...
bah...
EDIT: more on the story.. apprently they chose not to cross the finish line..
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Australia: Three point gamble for San Marino win
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By Phil Huff - April 2 2006
Honda Racing F1 elected to retire Jenson Button from the Australian Grand Prix just yards from the finish line, choosing instead to sacrifice a potential three points for a fresh engine without penalty at San Marino.
Jenson Button's car started spewing flames, smoke and engine parts as he exited the final corner of the race and, with just seconds to come to a decision, his race engineer Andrew Shovlin declared that Button should not cross the finish line.
In issuing the order, the team chose to lose the three points Button may have got for finishing sixth, although Jenson doesn't feel he'd have made it to the line anyway.
"Two corners from the end I felt it was a little bit down on power, a little bit tight, and then coming out of the last corner there was a massive, massive fire and lots of smoke," explained Jenson. "I pulled over to the right to get out of everyone's way but it seized just before I got to the finish line. I stopped the car anyway as it wouldn't have made the finish line anyway."
Team boss Nick Fry spoke immediately after the race, saying It was a quick call by the race engineer, and we need to see if it was right later."
Speaking later, Fry added "Clearly what we will do, as we will do with everything, is have an evaluation of the situation. At the moment we feel it was the right decision.
"We lost points here but we can go to Imola with a clean sheet of paper, a new engine and improvements to the car. Hopefully we can turn it into a good race position next time around.
"We didn't hear anything on the radio or data about it, but Jenson said he felt the engine not pick up properly on the last lap through the fast corners at the back. He felt that something was not quite right, but when he saw the smoke he kept his foot in."
"He's less than impressed, but rightly so I think," he continued. "We've got a lot of work to do before we get to Imola."
While many commentators are suggesting that the team made a poor decision in potentially sacrificing these points, it's worth remembering that Honda Racing F1's target for 2006 is race wins, and not points. Historically, both Jenson Button and Honda have been strong at San Marino, home to the next race, and a fresh engine package without penalty will be a great benefit, especially considering that both championship leader Fernando Alonso will be on his second engine cycle.
i find it funny. M.S. going through the TOYOTA garage. You wouldnt expect a team to allow anyone from another team in their shed. Interesting considering all those rumors that TOYOTA are trying to poach him
If for Imola they don't score at least 3 points, then it would have been all a waste!
more like if they dont score more than 3! they should have taken the points and made button do a "kimi 1 stop special" im sure they garuateed some points that way. kimi always isQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
If Kimi can go from last to 2nd, then why can't Button? Mercedes is more reliable than Honda?!Quote:
Originally Posted by j3z3z
There was clearly something wrong with Button today from what I can see...
Even if his tyres were warmed up at the rare occasions, he wasn't running at a good pace. Only 7th best lap time.
Also, he wasn't even trying hard enough to warm up the tyres. Even Alonso could see this (as he said in the interview), and hence overtook Jenson after 1st Safety Car period as he was more aggressive with warming up the tyres.
These are the things which make a world champion - I expected more from Button!
What about Mark Webber? That was a bit unfair to him.
Anyway Williams are known to have problems during winter testing, for using their new, quicker but unreliable seamless gearbox.
What a fantastic race, i loved it (well, apart from being gutted when Fisi stalled on the grid!). But yeah, last to 5th isn't bad, and he was flying before the first pit stop, passed like 8 cars, one lap after another, not that we saw any of it. WTF is with channel 10!!!!
Great save as well on the last corner, all crossed up on button's oil with zero visibility, coz the oil on his visor. Someone said Button would have to change his underwear, what about fisi, he's all of a sudden 2 metres from a fireball!
Hopefully this race goes someway to correcting all the kimi fans and their "he is faster than alonso, just bad luck" crap. This was a straight race, and Kimi got beaten, he is not better than Alonos!, after every safety car alonso kept pulling away (even after MF1 gave them a head start) (oh, and btw, i think someone said MF1 was Minardi, they aren't, they are ex-Jordan, Toro Rosso are minardi).
I'm glad that BMW also pulled some points, we now have 3 or 4 teams for the wins, and 3 or 4 teams to fight for points....its going to be a great season.
But yeah, channel 10, 1. Do they not remember the backlash after they used their own commentators a few years ago?!, give us Brundle and Allen!!!!!! And also, the coverage missed the first restart!!! and no replays!!!! WTF!
haha thats gotta hurt
Button's gotta be crying
literally the vtec fell off lol
but yeah was a great race, so many big shots got taken out, I was surprised. And Montoya...what a tool.
Oops, that was me. Yeah, It's Jordan, not Minardi. Still noob blocking drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
new details
scott speed got docked 25seconds for ignoring yellow flags, which means he loses his 8th place and ends up in 11th
DC gets 8th and jenson gets 9th
sato also had some talking to by the stewards for ignoring blue flags
sato is king !
sato is homo
I think Sato is a very fast driver too, but he was ALWAYS overshadowed and out performed by Button.
I mean, Barrichello is suffering from exactly the same thing now... he was never faster than Button during Winter Testing (except for 1 day from memory) and a lot slower than Button's race pace.
But yes Sato is a fag...
maybe he was looking for his brothers shoulder to cry on... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ECU-MAN
Just a quick post for now (just got home from that stupid city called Melbourne, so damm cold)
Yours truley meet:
- Jacques Villeneuve
- Flavio Briatore
- Peter Windsor (F1 Magazine)
- Robert Kubica (BMW 3rd driver)
- Jimoen (the comedy bloke)
Action packed weekend, especially when Jenson Button's car let go (Highlight of the weekend)
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Originally Posted by quangsta
Haha.... so possible lol.. :p
After reading this thread, no one has mentioned how bad Button is on the restart after a safety car.
It is basic karting rules, bunch the grid up and when you make the decision to go you out run them (so they don't get in your slip stream)
Jenson had 3 chances to get it right, each safety car he stuffed it, everyone goes on about how much better he is then Webber, I can't see the arguement leaning towards either driver.
Honda aren't the standout team this year, I think BMW are, the cars are so fast and both drivers stay out of trouble and just have a good race and collect points.
Massa, Rosberg, Klein, Michael and Montoya all had shocking afternoons, but thats motorsport.
Montoya spining on the formation lap was hilarious, seeing Ross Brawn laugh was gold.
McLaren are still the only team in the padock that haven't had an engine failure this year, Montoya's "offtrack" incident caused a default switch to cut off or something in his car which cuts the engine power apparently.
Kimi drove nearly 20 laps with a stuffed front nose didn't he?
I heard that it wasn't in good shape and thats why he was loosing so much time to Alonso in the first half of the race. Towards the end he was catching Alonso very quickly.
Poor Webber, in such a strong position to finish with good points and then a box full of neutrals (which happened were i was sitting)
Overall, great weekend except Melbourne has the worst weather in the world. I'll be bad next year (praying for it to be warmer)
weather was perfect for 2 wks prior for the commonwealth games...
:P
Well I did say that Button 'wasn't' trying hard enough to warm up his tires again when he was behind safety car.... even Alonso could see that easily and hence got past him... haha
I think Button is very fast - but he doesn't have the 'intelligence' to become a world champion, despite the natural ability to drive
as for Kimi catching Alonso - well Alonso was only revving to below 18000rpm saving the engine at the end. It doesn't mean Kimi was as fast as Alonso, especially seeing that Kimi's best lap was near the end, with very low fuel.
Whereas Alonso's fastest lap, which only only 0.2s down on Kimi, was with a much higher fuel load..
true.. easier said than done though... the Honda is SHOCKING after restarts... first few laps he was 5-8secs off the pace! thats fkn ridiculousQuote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
i really hope they get this sorted out before the Euro leg kicks off.. its really hampering their efforts...
u could see this in Bahrain n Sepang as well... initial lap after pit stop was horrible..
When I was watching the race(s), I kept thinking what the heck is Button doing. Or NOT doing....
He doesn't even try to warm up the tyres. Too scared to pull a Montoya spin? haha :D
Buttons pole lap..
VIDEO: http://youtube.com/watch?v=XuyzCCL-mWY
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