Let's face the facts lads, JDM Type R chops both cars.
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Let's face the facts lads, JDM Type R chops both cars.
type R for RECARO.. lol
:thumbsup: simple isn't it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
If people thought like that we'd never have great movies like Saving Private Ryan.Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
:p
Type S Tony Just riped 3rd's going up a hill, hehehehhehehe, It felt nice
Hey, Guys. FYI i have done 0-400 in 14.488 stock with 45psi tires
In my Type S.
and the AUDM DC5R is an Type S dressed as a R + LSD ect, Whereas the AUDM DC5S is a R dressed as a S,
JDM Type R engine(inc. JDM CAMS) tuned down for a low point fuel.
damnnn 14.488 is a goood figure for stock boys.. i dont know abt the R now ayyy :P
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH :P
Please refer to this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=2394
you can also refer to this as well
http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=2108
dont get me wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.k20z1
I took my mats out and bent my mirrors in :thumbsup:
took everything out i had in the car cds manuels ect. im a heavy bloke so i needed the edge on the weight thing, im 125kg. I was running 14.6/14.7 all night that was my only sub 14.6 all night. but i did have like 8 runs LOL .
@ the creek
@ the end.. when everything is modified.. it doesnt matter if its an s or an r..
i totally agree!! I like my luxury. but also like the R badging and wing, got the R badges but the wing is to much effort.
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Originally Posted by XP02ED
I got a JDM R hey and it look hot!!
http://http//www.ozhonda.com/forum/a...4&d=1194327747
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachm...4&d=1194327747
Actually it matters alot.
I would hate to be in leather seats when I'm on track, sliding every where.
I have my recaros but I still put in a harness.
And its a fact that the Type S makes more power then the Type R. The S has the JDM Type R cams! Meaning even you put in your normal IHE the S will have more power then the R unless the R changes cams.
But really we're not talking about huge KWs difference (even though I know how hard it to squeeze kws out of an N/A engine).
Just go to track! The track put things into perspective.
I want to get a Bucket seat for the Track use only... and take all the seats out aswell.
not hard to do!!
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Originally Posted by TeMp
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Originally Posted by EL_DC5
So you are gona carry a seat with you to the track. Put in the rails and seat. Then at the end of day you will take all that out again.
Plus the air bag sensor problem.
So much fun~
You do know that the JDM Type S comes only with the base 118kW Integra engine, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
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Originally Posted by EL_DC5
Your S is not a R. It's not even dressed as one.
I've driven an S and it comes nowhere close to the feel of an R. The gearbox gaites are incredibly loose in comparison. It tracks terribly as soon as it loses traction thanks to a lack of LSD and it's VTEC lift feels smoother and more gradual than the R.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amusevtec
Horses for courses, but the statement that the AUDM R is a dressed up S is just a naive S owners comment.
How is 125kg of man meat gonna fit in a bucket seat? No offence, but I remember reading another thread where you said you couldn't fit in a Recaro/Bride seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
LOL at this thread now..
nah i fitQuote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
that wasnt me.
then explain why it has a USDM Type S engine?????
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Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Don't make the mistake thinking that the engine alone is what makes a Type R. The R has chassis stiffening, additional bracing at the rear and has additional weight reduction in the form of a thinner windscreen and zero noise insulation material underneath the carpet. All this coupled with the recaros and LSD make it a Type R. Your Type S is not a Type R. The Type R makes compromises in comfort for less weight and better handling. The Type R doesn't have the option of a sunroof just because they wanted to lower the centre of gravity for handling benefits.Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
The Type S on the other hand doesn't make any compromises and is better than a Type R for use as a daily driver unless you are willing to accept those sacrifices in comfort.
coz DC5R
At the end of the day we all mod them up similar, and is you want the newer model with the new better engine get a S
"new better engine".. what makes u think its better? coz it has 7kw more? @ the end of the day... few minor mods.. they can be the same..
LOL,
1. Type S is newer so its better LOL
2. It has the Real JDM Type R cams.
3. Bigger Intake Manifold JDM Type R one FTW
4. Cause I Said so... FTW :p
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Originally Posted by XP02ED
Reading this thread makes me feel sad for owning a DC5
Shame on you all.
Man To me it the same shit. at the end of the day ... comes the night.. and it not a Porsche !!!
lol.. gotta love the "JDM" mentality people have in here.. aftermarket will pwn it :D
The Way I like to think about it is:
Type R: Superman
Type S: Silver Surfer
Both Are the ultimate, but one is more powefull than the other.
There both made from Honda.. both produce relatively same power.. a few changes to one or the others engine produces which is going to be faster..
It doesnt matter which ones faster.. it matters on who the owner is.. and if he likes his/her car..
People like typeR coz of what its made its name for...
people like typeS coz of the luxury and sport it provides..
@ the end of it.. u bought ur car coz u like it.. not someone else on the forum
R U saying U like me??:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by XP02ED
lol only way to settle it
e-heroes go for a track day and prove who's car is faster
*rolls eyes*
Honestly i think it all comes down to driver.
Get Forza or GT5 when it comes out then do a comparo Tai :p
It's the RSX and JDM ITR. Not a fair fight at all. The JDM ITR owns Forza. I have A and B class ITRs and they're easily the best handling cars I have outside of race cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadAngel
Bwahahaha, now lets use games as real life evidence, GT4/5, FM1/2, Juiced1/2, NFS series... DISCUSS :p
No his notQuote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
thanks for clearing that UP :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Amusevtec
Burnout Paradise confirmed as the official JDM Battle game for 2008. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DreadAngel
^^ Roflmfao!!!
Type R is a whole racing package with all you need to drive around corners, straight roads etc. It is the real thing and mods to it can make it easily faster than the Type S.
No doubt, Type S is faster on paper and even as you said u tested it with a fren. Driving skills matters as well. However hard you try to prove your Type S is faster than the Type R, which may be true, the Type S can never be a whole driving package like the Type R. Power to weight ratio is important for Honda. 100kg difference in weight is a big deal. Its like saying putting a B16a1 into an EG and a b16a2 into an EK, the Ek might win, which is very much possible, but the EG6 driver must suck for that to happen. This is similar to your Type S and Type R case.
One more thing, Honda is not designed to be fast on straight lines. The cornering ability etc is what that make a honda one of the best handling cars we ever wanted. Dun believe me, pull over next to a GTR with your Type S and you will understand that you rather trade ur 7kw for a full driving package.
No offence, its jus my opinion. Good luck with the Type S.
Doesn't the first generation Type R have suspension design problems? And we never got the 2nd revised DC5R version that Japan has?
I was reading lately in a comparison and apparently, the Type S is actually faster on a track than a Type R, because even despite the lack of and LSD on the Type S, it was better balanced at the limit, had less torque steer, etc. Not to mention it is slightly faster (stock vs stock, not one with cat-back and one completey stock - not a valid comparison in my opinion).
The Type R gearing ratios are slightly better for track work though.
Who here still has a stock vehicle anyway? The argument is pointless because we all have modified cars anyway. Unless you've really botched your mods we've got better than stock versions of both.
my dc5r is basically stock, all it had is a power getter cat back which doesn't do much if anything at all...
my type S is stock
no mods yet lol
Well there is always a time when people have stock cars I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Its good to compare stock cars sometimes. If stock it is good, fast and comfortable enough, then many people just leave it as it is.
Obviously Honda's are usually designed to be modded so I do see your point :)
exactly....Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
why bother comparing stock when practically most people have modified something..
I sold my euro, and just got myself a dc5 type s...and my gf got a dc5 type r, i love both vehicle.
dv5r vs dc5s, doesnt really matter, as long as we are in the dc5 family!! hahahah!!
^EP3 > FN2(aka Jazz/peugeot)
You fail at flame bait. Those in FN2s shouldn't throw.... anything.
P.S. Come to Wakefield in your Fat Nugget 2 and we'll show you how crap DC5s are.
Sorry mate, my Fat Nugget 2 didn't come with LSD, Brembos, uprated suspension, 24hp extra... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
But according to our friend here, those things don't matter. It's like an episode of Whose Line.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadAngel
FN2TypeR's logic is FN2 > all others. We know that's not the case.
Lets keep him there, insulate him from the shock when the truth hits him @ 60km/h :p lol
What's wrong with you? :wave:
Honestly IMO, I rather take a AUDM DC5R over a FN2, it simply has more potential and I am sure, with the equal drivers, the AUDM DC5R will be quicker around the track as well.
What advantage does the FN2 have over the DC5?
Suspension (Strut/torson beam vs Strut/Double wishbone) -> No
Power -> No
Weight -> No
Looks -> Debatable
Define your meaning of "shit". Is it in terms of looks? Cause that's the only thing I can think of for you although I am also not a fan of the looks of the Fat Nugget 2.
Like the rest said, since you think so highly of your car, bring it to the tracks, go for a time attack and see if you can beat the "shit" DC5s'.
x2Quote:
Originally Posted by ennavoli
if dc5 is shit, then fn2 is definately shit too
and he bought a shit car!!
how smart is he??
hahaa
Nah, he mistaken Type-R for GT-R...
Ok guys back on topic thanks ;)
DC5S ARENT CRAP SORRY!!Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
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Originally Posted by markasia
As DreadAngel said, I'm one of the biggest DC5 fanboys here. Turn on your sarcasm plug in.
fair enuff, didnt know what was going on in here,
this is for FN2TypeR http://honda-portal.com/honda-videos.php?video_id=807
We should get a DC5R, DC5S, FN2 and EP3 to Wakefield to compare. And I'll come in my fatty slow Euro.
I'm up for that. We'd have to handicap the event though. FN2TypeR would say my car is only quicker because it's modded.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Give him a 2 second advantage? Unless you are running semis, then give him 4 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by m0nty ITR
Sounds fair. Now we just need FN2 to play along. Who can bring a DC5S and an EP3?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
wat mods do u have on ur car?
Fujitsubo PG CatbackQuote:
Originally Posted by 2002 TeGgY
Toda Headers
Injen CAI
Trust Oil Cooler
Spoon Engine Torque Damper
Spoon Baffled Oil Pan
ARC 36mm Radiator
Tein Flex Coilovers
Rays TE37s 17x7.5
Bridgestone RE55s
Project Mu HC Plus Pads
I'm getting a Hondata KPro after Christmas along with new cams and valve springs. Endless 4 pots are shipping as we speak and INGS carbon bonnet and Spoon final drive should be here any day now. The aim was to make the car bulletproof before going further. The radiator and oil cooler will see to that.
Over the next 6 months I want to get TODA flywheel and clutch, Endless rear 4 pots, C pillar bar, J's Racing under body and fender bars and Cusco rollcage. I'm very fortunate in having a company car too. I wouldn't be able to turn the car into a weekend track car otherwise.
^^ With those, he might want more than 4 seconds. What's your PB on wakie?
shit man, ur going all out. how are ur engine mounts handelling it? my car is stock and i broke mine lol
1:12:86 last time down in September. That was with +60 offset wheels, OEM pads, no cooler, OEM radiator and no rear strut brace. Wheel track is now 60mm wider than last time thanks to +45 wheels with 16mm spacers. That alone should improve stability.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
2002teggy, they're doing just fine but I'll upgrade to Spoon items shortly. The car only has 64,000kms and it was dead stock when I bought it at 59,000kms.
The only issue I've had is poorly fitted headers which I need to refit. The spring gasket bolt next to the cat is too long and under load it's hitting the sensor just infront of it. I won't say who fitted them because we usually get silenced anyway.
my car has only done 53,000 kms and i bought it dead stock (still is lol) at 39,000 kms, but i do give it hell lol. waitin on mugen mounts from jdm yard...