anyone using these?? or links to reviews on them? interested to know how low they can go....
http://img315.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...2690spoon1.jpg
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anyone using these?? or links to reviews on them? interested to know how low they can go....
http://img315.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/u...2690spoon1.jpg
I hear the Ohlins are supposed to be very good, I've been researching these for a few days.... I still don't know enough about them so back to my reading
You can buy Ohlins for S2000 with new Aluminium Cylinder for around $2700AUD from Japan or the Flag-S for S2000 for $4200
I love the Japanese websites translated into english, they are just so incoherent, fun to read though!
^^ yahoo auction pricing?
there was a set of Ohlin DFV on yahoo for $1300 or so.
btw, did you end up buying the ones on s2ki.com? the guy told me spring rates were 14/12
Nah, there was a Jap website that I got these off.... I can find website if u want?
Yeah, I did, we will see how the spring rates fair up for everyday driving! What u think? :D
i had 14/12 on my old integra...had them on for 1 day :(
LOL - If worse comes to worse, I will change to diff s/ratesQuote:
Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
It all gets expensive that way. With prices on yahoo auctions add 10-20% japanese broker fee, Japanese domestic shipping, freight to Australia, then taxes etc. While OHLINS are a quality name and are well known, you should be more interested in finding out which specific coilovers are known to work really well with your car. Go for tried and tested solutions. I would recommend you look into TODA Fightex DA and Bilstein PSS9. DMS are excellent but not sure about honda applications.
My coil-overs are 12kg/12kg and they are fine, I've even ran them on the stiffest setting for daily driving without a problem and the road to my house is one of the worse. It also depends on the damper as well, I had d2 coilovers on my old celica, and it was alot more bumpy and rough then the coilovers on my s2000 atm.
DMS coils are great, I wouldnt excatly say they are affordable, neither are they worth if for a street driven car, hardly even woth it for a car that goes track less then 5 times a year.
I was worried that when I get the coil overs with a 14kg/12kg setting that they would be too hard. But seeing that I have also been reading that there are a lot of factors that attribute to the overall feel of the end result I've been left a little 'less' stressed about the decision that I have made to buy my coilovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by vyets
Sorry for hijacking the thread like this. Hopefully this feedback will help you with your choice mate.
The most significant determining factor as to how well coilovers will work and how the car will perform with them is how well the springs and dampers work together. Some coilovers with 'high' spring rates will feel much better on the road than others with 'lower' spring raters, it all depends on how well the springs and matched to the shocks and vice versa. I had 14k/8k on my suzuki ignis sport and at low speeds its a little bouncy (car only weighs 935kg) but at speed the handling and roadholding is phenomenal. As I said, go with tried and tested...and get them set up properly...PM me if you're in Melbourne and need an excellent place to get your suspension set up.
I'm in Sydney. Know of anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by STiR
Heisemans in Sydenham.
Thanks MAD. btw.. congrats on your engagement :D
MAD is engaged?
congrats man
It looks that way... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ferrari
Did you end up getting the coilovers. If not there's a guy in 'sale' section selling PSS9 for the s2k for around $2K or so. From my personal experience, some of the best coilovers available.
^^ some people consider them abit 'soft' also if you like your car 'slammed' then they dont do the job either.
Thankyou guys, popped the question Xmas eve.Quote:
Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
If you really drive your car hard then nothing that some eibach uprated springs can't fix. The Bilstein shocks are top quality, next time I have to buy coilovers for a car they'll be bilsteins for sure.
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Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
+1 on PSS9 as I have them :)
-1 cos you keep trying to unload them onto me! LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by eriktufa
Congrats man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
btw the NFR is looking pimping hot! get it out on track asap!
Alrighty, a coilover thread for the S2000.
This will likely be my next purchase in the coming month's time.
Looking at buying the Bilstein PSS9's, but could be swayed to say T1R or Jic coils too.
What I want to know is, what would you guys recommend for spring rates F&R for my S?
ATM the car is just used on weekends, but I do intend to do some light track duties in the near future when the car is more 'complete' - aka coilovers + more boost etc!
So, AU conditions, weekender, light track work, height and damper adjustible, with a budget of about.... $1700ish I guess.
Looking for feedback, general input, and your thoughts.
It's been covered afew times now.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/search....archid=2145901
Read around.
Bilstein Pss9's would be better then the JIC and T1R. Only thing is people say they are abit soft for the track.
If you car is only a weekender why not get some more hardcore coilovers. You got the power get the suspension, Moton, JRZ or some not as hardcore Ohlins, Kw V3's or Jdm style BC RSD, Tein SRC.
I have a daily civic, but my s2000 gets driven more then just on weekends and I run 12kg springsrates and they are fine. I want to upgrade to new coils soon, but some other parts are more important at the moment.
Didn't think we had a proper coilover thread!Quote:
Originally Posted by vyets
My bad - I'll merge them :thumbsup:
EDIT: I know there's plenty of you guys out their with coils in your cars. Speak up! haha. I'd like some first hand info and feedback before I go clicking the Buy button.
PSS9:
Comes with blue springs (updated since the last version came with red springs).
Spring rate: F 6 kg/mm (330 lbs/ft) and R 5 kg/mm (245 lbs/ft).
Damper adjustment is pretty linear from 9-2 until the stiffest setting (1) as it makes the suspension rock hard but it can be soft... depending on the damper setting.
PSS9 won't allow you to slammed the car as there is a limitation of how low it can go, about 1 finger at the rear and half finger at the front.
Body roll is still noticeable since it has low spring rate but it all depends on the swaybar thickness as well.
Hope that helps
Now, click the Buy Button :)
Erik
I highly recommend the buddyclub RSD, but they are out of the $1700 range.
Mine are great for daily, I have a civic to drive daily, but the S is too tempting. I can slam the car if I want as the height doesnt affect the dampening, its dual adjust. Very firm spring rates, but I really like them.
I have the whiteline front sway, with the RSD and RE001, Im more than happy with the improvement over stock.
How much are the RSD's?
I don't want to spend more than $2K. I'm trying to cut down on my S2K spendings lately so if I can keep it below $2K, I'll be happy.
Spring rates are what I want to know the most about.
I'm curious whats people are running in our AU road condtions etc.
Higher the number, harder the dampener, but I want comfort, height adjustability, and damper adjustability.
Everyone keeps telling me PSS9 and KW V3!!! LOL. But then that brings me back to the spring rates..... whats a good spring rating to use in my situation?
Use anything above 10kg. And the higher the number doesn't mean the dampers are harder. Some coils might have real low springrates, but their dampers are shocking which make the coil rough and crap.
Don't worry about comfort mate!! It's a weekender, but seriously PSS9's are best for your situation, and probably the best coil for that price range.
I'm thinking about purchasing coilovers too. Does anybody have pictures of the S with pss9 coilovers lowered to its maximum setting? Purchasing coilovers for the S seems pretty misleading as not many people feedback about them and first hand information is limited. Hows the tein monoflex compare to other coilovers mentioned by vyet? I had a set on my civic and was pretty pleased by the amount I could lower the vehicle by.
Mine are 10k front and rear. For the spring rates. I got mine from JDM yard. They list at 2.5 k, may be able to source cheaper from him, I know I did.
i always recommend TODA fightex as they are very very good. I had a set of dual adjust on my EG civic.
the dampener has excellent control and they are also separately adjustable, height and spring adjustment are totally independent.
dampening force very good and also the spring rates are right for s2000's.
I would recommend 10kg front and back for spring rates. going too hard is no good for the road conditions in Oz.
civicem1: u dun really wanna lower the s2000 too much.. the rear drive shafts will wear really fast and u will hear a clicking noise coz they aren't centred in the diff properly due to the angle of the drive shaft. u will need plates to bring the drive shafts in more, J's racing and Spoon make them. then also u gotta think about bump steer. so lowering to the max is not the best idea dude..
I have driven two dropped s2ks, and they handled like shit. It throws everything off.
exactly.... ur 100% correct Ferrari.. they are low already and have a good balance of weight 50/50 and a low centre of gravity..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrari
lowering it too much will just ruin a S2000... u lose speed and cornering capabilities... no point driving it then huh??? max would be to lower it 2.5inches from stock... with good coil overs it will still handle relatively well.. unless u got all the diff plates and bump steer brackets then thats a diff story...
agree with u hands down dude..
I'm quite sure you can source Buddyclub RSD off ebay for around $1300USD + shipping etc, it should still be under $2000. I'm not convinced by Buddyclub's quality nor their customer service in Australia, so do not let that be a determining factor.
As someone stated before, the spring rates don't mean a great deal. It's to do with the valving of the shocks etc. If you look at the KW V3 and the KW CS, they both use 515lbs/in springs (9.2kg/mm approx.), although the CS are valved towards being a more track focussed application, hence the harsher ride on the streets.
On another note, I read on s2ki that KW make the most of valving to achieve what they want from a coilover whilst getting away with the lowest spring rate possible.
Ferrari: How much lower than stock do you have your car now? And have you added any supporting mods such as a BSK, RCA, drive shaft spacers etc? I trust your opinion on the handling side of things!!
blusir2: everytime a thread like this comes up you are always banging on about the Toda Fightex DA coilovers. Have you got a set on your s2000? If not, then why are you recommending them to members here? I have also yet to read any review from anyone on these coilovers, please enlighten me if you know of any. Also Brad is after coilovers around $2000, I'm quite sure the Toda coils are over $3000.
I think for the price range it's hard to go past the KW V3s (provided you can get a good deal), the PSS9s are not that much cheaper. End of the day both are top quality German made suspension. I'll report back on the former shortly though :)
Rolled: i have driven and sat in one that has TODA Fightex. Also as i have mentioned I owned a set that i had on my civic. That is why i recommend them. Not to say that they are not expensive. But from what i know and the different coil overs i have owned I thought they were the best.
Just trying to help and give my opinion and experience.. I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours... need to relax dude...
the spring rates do serve a purpose, they are the basic parts of your coil over suspension system which will give you the bound and rebound, what the shock does is control the rate at which it will bound and rebound after going over a bump or groove in the ground... hence the difference in spring rates... normally the heavier the car the heavier the spring to counter act the weight of the car.. that is why they HAVE different spring rates.. there is a purpose..
eg. they have a spec for the spring like 10kg/mm this means you have to put a load of 10kgs on the spring before it will compress 1mm. So when you go over a bump your coil-over spring will travel in comparison to that idea. What the shock does is control that rate, coz you obviously dun want it to rebound at a un-controlled rate otherwise the car will handle erratically. If your spring rate is lower though then the speed at which the spring will rebound is lower as it is not as hard as one with a higher spring rate. So the car will feel a bit more loose after going over bumps, like it travels more in the vertical direction.
The shock is very important like the other guys have said but the spring rate should not be neglected in your decision. It makes the difference between a harder and less harder ride. If you choose a hard spring and your shocks aren't up to the controlling of them then the ride will be compromised. Normally the factory recommended rate is suitable for the shock. 10kgs is what a lot of manufacturers recommend for a sporty/race ride.. thats from Tein and Toda that i know of anyway. i saw others recommending it too...
hope i have been correct in explaining and maybe helped u a bit...
Toda coilovers arnt exactly for everyone imo. they are super expensive! such a waste on Aussie roads.
Has anyone here experienced KW variant 3???
give me a week Fly :D
A whole thread on s2ki about PSS9 vs KW V3 height settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by civicem1
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=621484
Don't know mate I got Tein RS not monoflex, they are totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by civicem1
Adjustability is good, but sometimes not soo great. My coils have alot of adjustment but I havn't been able to found a very good setup yet. On the street it's usless to adjust you just dont have enough road to feel the difference. It's alot of playing around especially with the remote resivor tanks.
Ahh ludacrs beat me too it with the kw and pss9 thread.
There are heaps of first hand feedback from the usa. One guy Stinkytofu has tested afew diffrent coils on his s2000, but all the ratings are more to do with track then street. As you all know any coil will do for the street.
It's not just the s2000 that will handle crap if its dropped on its ass, most cars are like that. But that doesn't mean lowsetup cars are always crap, with the right settings testing and research you could have a very powerful low setup. The J's racing ap1 had a very low setup yet handled very well and had no problems with the bumps on the touge, but of corse.. they are professionals :)
I've only heard good things about the Toda coils, but I havn't seen anyone with them on a s2000 and they real expensive too, maybe they're up there with the motons and jrz but they cost an arm and a leg lol.
Maybe look into RCAs & BSKs as well as the steering rack heighteners for a dumped s2k...They are not cheap though.
Might have a set of KW V3's for cheap from the US.
Couldn't pass up on the price ; so we'll see.