FPV, HDT and HSV......dems tha real boys!
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FPV, HDT and HSV......dems tha real boys!
Moderators: Have you got stickies of dyno results or links as a result of these modifications. [Might be a good idea to have a sticky like the Toda performance ones in the Integra forum]. Just gives newcomers an idea.
My partner is interested in acquiring a VTI-S Jazz and performing the base modifications (CAI, Exhaust, ECU).
lol so true, prob has a fully sik VL... lol....Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
Thought you got the TODA kit pete?Quote:
Originally Posted by petrovski
I think people mod mainly for customising. If you look at it from a car class perspective, the people at ferarri or F1 may have the same opinion on the GTRs, ITR, Supras etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by carbine
Jazz modders here don't expect to beat VLs, HSV, GTRs, ITR etc. I'm sure most people just do it for satisfaction and customising. HSV etc is also a super'ed up holden commodre if you look at it like that. But people class it as a performance vehicle.
There is a super charged and NA version of the jazz that has seem to give some decent results in its class. To my knowledge most people are arguing that it is a performance vehicle within its class of the norm.
I dont know if I make much sense and I am not to spur on a flame. I prefer to stand on the fence but these are my 2 cents.
i agree with kuso, sti's, evo's, HSV & FPV they are all just hotted up family cars. when you looks at it that way the list of true sports cars gets reduced to a small minority...
Fun thread to read! Anyway, I agree that there is no way JAZZ/FIT can beat WRX or Prelude running stocks. Off course it might change if you are running Fully modified JAZZ and maybe running K20 engine.
However I did beat some better sedan such as Mitsubishi Lancer (stocks) and Xtrail (stocks) but my GF JAZZ already have tons of modification. In my opinion its almost fully mods, from header, downpipe, exhaust, intake, CAI. Soooo...
Anyway JAZZ is fun to drive and even more fun when u begin modding it! Too many mods not to much money for me.. :confused:
if u mod ur car its up to you.. there isnt much on the market concidering the car is so new. and its costly to custom make things but i like a challange.. muahaha
sassy_fit_vtit: i beg to differ. There is so many parts for the Jazz you just have to know where to look. Most new Honda vehicles when they first go out, they usually supply samples to tuning shops already before they even go public so that they can already produce custom parts for it.
Look at the new Civic. Mugen's got custom parts already.
.. tru but im talking about engine mods... my set up is all custom..
oh well if custom stuff is what you want then that's abit harder.... but off the shelf from MUGEN, SPOON, etc etc... easy pissy... :) just one phone call to JDMYARD or JDMCONCEPT two weeks later the parts are here. :)
tru.. but there isnt as many options as the old model cars.. thats what im getting at.. most of the cars made before 00 have turbokits out etc
lol
can't believe u still talkn about the jazz's performance ....
like dont' get me wrong i loovveee the jazz... love it! and i want my mum to get one so i can do it up!
but seroiusly .. in a fair drag u canot beat wrx's and ludes.
i drive a lude vtir , and if i saw a jazz next to me i wouldnt even bother dragging it, until i see it gunning it hard, when im already in 2nd gear .
of a lude and a jazz both launched ... end of 1st gear ... bye bye jazz ...
im happy to take on any jazz's on this forum , done up or not ... lolz jazz owners should really invest in sussy, as some were saying , as it is light , and has potential in that area..
From memory no one said jazz > prelude...
Don't know why you think we are saying that. It's like saying a modded prelude can race against NSX. If you would have read the thread more carefully you would have noticed that we are comparing to our own class. Jazz to echo and other small cars. At least that is how I see it. Out of its class, it is comparitively quite zippy.
In terms of the others saying they kept up with the other ludes etc. Im pretty sure they are just referring to not being left behind and the jazz can hold its own. Of course other factors come into this like whether the driver is trying or not.
Engine transplants can be done to hte jazz and has been done by mugen. THere is the infamous K20a jazz and now there is also a super charged one as well.
So why do we get bagged out for tinkering with the performance aspects when all the civics that used to be considered the small car of the honda, get to do their engine transplants and tinker with their performance side.
Im pretty sure no one here expects to beat any car that is not in its class. It''s just utter stupidy to think so unless some serious modifications have been done. So there is no need to take everyone's comments as a threat.
Im getting sick of explaining this to people so Im going to withdraw from this thread.
My 2 cents
agree with kusO... i have moded my car but i know my limitations..
Turbo kit??.... There is a turbo kit for the Jazz made by HKS. If you want supercharger there is one from MUGEN. Both this options are not cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by sassy_fit_vtit
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Originally Posted by kuso
I agree with Kuso. With the same class cars i believe the Jazz is best amongst them. BEST MOTORING videos will prove that. :thumbsup:
I think a Jazz is not quick but quick enough for it's size. To me you dont really have to be quick on the street. But put the Jazz on the track and I think it will perform great. WIth just a few suspension mods it will be a great track car. Not quick Not powerfull but just a balanced car....
i smell bs...if u launced a wrx in first gear....jazz would be gone...simple as that
jazz aint built for striaght line speed :P, it has its strengths but with a 1.5 motor, it aint built for drags... all cars have limitations....
we aint comparing it to a wrx dc2dc2dc2.. we are saing it u put it next to a mitsubitshi coult or a hyandi gets, toyota yaris/eco, merc a-class etc... dood i wouldnt pull up to a wrx with a stock jazz, so many things putting the wrx in advantage, 4wd, turbo etc
car^boy, ye aat the time i did my conversion there where tubo kits availiable but i heard it was from 5k-8k, custom was the cheapest option for me.
the jazz has potential alike all cars, its a matter of money and resources. but in its frame it does have limitations, fwd and engine space its limited in the mods to the original engine and availibility, cost and variety of L-series engines if it was to have a transplant
Guys check this out....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...65262608055260
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Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2
Well, try with this Jazz and see what happen.....lol
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if u wanna compare a modded jazz that's decked out with R gear, compare it to the WRC wrx. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacky Wong
The jazz is a people mover. A simple little fuel economical people mover. it will never be more then that.
^^^ you've obviously never seen the spoon fit on best motoring (a link is posted in one of the above posts, watch it! looks cool going around the track)
They state because of the cars lighweight and well balanced frame/chassis it has the potential to drive/feel like a true sports car.
Their only critiscism was a lack of engine power... as posted above a k20a would solve that no worries
There is also another Best Motoring video where they are reviewing all the various small cars and putting them on the track. The Jazz left the pack from the get go. they couln't even catch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
There is another BEst Motoring Video the SPOON Jazz went against another tuning companies K-Car = a Pink Toyota Echo turbo charged....
err.....yes......i dont know what or never seen the spoon fit in my life........ :rolleyes:
Yes it has "potenital" every single car has "potential"" :rolleyes:
But the simple fact is, the jazz straight out of the box is a fuel economical little people mover.
They dont get mass manufactured with 50 way height and damper adjustable 20/18 kg coilovers, or thick front and rear sway bars, strut bars, tie bars. So they wont do shit on the track.
Reason being ? they are a fuel economical little square toyota hilux lookalike people mover.
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Originally Posted by z3lda
floored argument, make up your mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by z3lda
name a car that is manafactured to such specifications.Quote:
Originally Posted by z3lda
I know of at least one person that has tracked a relatively stock jazz and achieved some great times on queensland raceway - of course he was a good driver - but there is more to doing "shit" on the track than being fast in a straight line and having superhard coilovers.
Take the jazz for what it is... an economical small car, compare it in it's category (not against a bloody wrc spec wrx) and maybe you'll cme see it's a decent little car for a bit of fun.
It's hard not to appreciate these points if you keep an open mind...
i only started reading from post 100 so i dont know what this thread is about ahha
but i take it you not know the meanin of " :rolleyes: " and you can't sense sarcasm when its in your face.
i dont agrue the fact that spoon or mugen jazz's are fast.
but the people with stock jazzs' that have a high flow carbon fibre titaninum anti aircraft rocket boosting "fast muffler" engrave muffler made from stealth bomber material and an ultra kw pumping turbine feed super rush air filter that thinks their cars are fast shit me up the wall...
haha fair enough - I can see why that may frustrate you, but more cars than just the jazz are guilty of that. It's just rice in general terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by z3lda
And eye-rolls to me have always meant "you don't know what your talking about' not an indication of sarcasm. But if that's the context you used it in I can appreciate what your saying.
But yea, this thread is about the jazz as a mod prospect. Yes a muffler won't make it fast, but good suspension, lightweight rims + good tyres and a few power mods will make it fun to drive. If the point of modding a car is to enjoy driving it then yes the jazz can be a decent mod prospect :angel:
i was refferring to that bs sassy_fit :) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sp00n
Omfg, u jazz owners getting defensive. Im not saying u guys think a jazz is better than a prelude..
but u read the thread and tell me 2 guys didnt say :
A: I kept up with a prelude Vtir
B: I beat a wrx in first and 2nd gear and it passed me in 3rd gear ..
dont try and put this back onto me.
Im saying if any jazz owner thinks they can keep up with a prelude vtir, then gimme a run ...
yes ... jazz's are fairly quick for such a small engined car , but u guys are being extremely optomistic.
and i never sed , ur not allowed to do up ur cars, i just sed u should concentrate MORE on handling .. eg. invest in some awseome coilovers , instead of spending heaps on a full stainless steel mandrel bent top of the range exhaust! ...
jeez defensive to the max...
and i know ur gonna flame me for this post too
Sorry but you just accused me of lying.....to that I take offense. I can't remember if I have posted in this thread before because it is so old and I can't be bothered reading back through 10 pages, but I am assuming point A refers to me.
Sorry mate but it happened (twice)...beleive it or not I was actually driving my car at the time and the person in the 'lude was a member of the forum at the time (he is no longer around) . At the same time he was also pretty cool about it and we all had a good laugh about it at the time...we both shocked but for different reasons. Me because the Jazz did it, and him because he couldn't shake my Jazz.
But who really cares, stop fuelling the fire. Accept it DID happen (or accept that I'm lying if you so wish). Perhaps all the planets were aligned at the time which gave the Jazz a magical boot up the arse...who knows. Maybe the other guy was a crap driver. It was a one-off thing.
Everyone here knows what the Jazz is capable of, and me more so than the most. I believe I speak with some authority on the matter, not merely talking out of my arse.
I'm not being defensive or flaming but I can't beleive this thread is flaring up again. I'm just happy that I know I have enough stick to give it to all the falcadores out there (and before you try and deny I can do that, I atually did for all the public to see at Eastern Creek)
Anyway enough of this...I'm off to go start some race wars with the Sooby guys!
according to what you just said it seems like you think that all the jazz drivers boast about how fast their car is and that we canQuote:
Originally Posted by preludacris
A: keep up with a prelude Vtir
B: beat a wrx in first and 2nd gear
if thats what you think then i dont think you have too much common sense...
only 2 jazz drivers boasted about that.
huh??? as if a dc wont b gone at the launch compared with wrx.......Quote:
Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2
Clam Down....don`t fight !!!!!
i believe his dc is fastest car in a world :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
right?
hahah.. z3lda.. so am i the only person on this forum that doesnt shit u off?
im not arguing how fast a dc is. im just quoting the noob sp00n who claims to stay even with a wrx in 1st and 2nd gear . *rolls eyes*
oh yea and i i did keep up to a prelude whilst my car was stock with vafc.. BUT.. in 2nd and 3rd.. top end the prelude flew me.. thats my truth. it might have been that the prelude did shift properly or was acrappy driver.. perhaps jus-10 went against a crapy driver? never know.
of cos u r not.... if a dc is faster than a jazz cant even go against wrx how can a jazz?? sometimes certain points need not be elaborated as they are just too obvious... should just let sp00n b if that was wat he claimed... perhaps the driver of the wrx didnt even try at the start that gave sp00n a better start and in this scenario he believed his jazz can stay with a wrx in 1st and 2nd gear... but for certain in general, most jazzes cant go against wrx....Quote:
Originally Posted by dc2dc2dc2
Danny, u read my PM? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
How?? ;)
have been waiting for your reply :eek: