OBD1 Dissy has 2 plugs
OBD2 Dissy has 1 large plug
OBD1 ECU pins are 2 rows high
OBD2 ECU pins are 3 rows high
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Welz my dizzy is 2 plugs and ECU wouldnt have a clue if it 2 row high i think it is
so it is OBD1 plug so OEM injector plug straight in without modifying anything? it not a nice fit just dosnt seem right
just look at the ecu plugs
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Geez we are a helpfull bunch. :p
Here you go. Side by side comparisson of the clips.
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Thanx that help alot, yerh it is OBD1 ecu and injector plug. so what i done today was got a work mate to wiggle the injector connection while im cranking it and you can smell i strong smell of fuel firing, so im pretty sure it is a poor connection. what use guys recon i should do cause the plug isnt a nice fit you wriggle it side to side that how loose it is!!! it ment to be a perfect fit cause it was made for this OBD1 model THAT SHIT!!!
Yeh, thats strange man. Its just hard to tell without seeing them. Do they fit snugly on the old injectors? If so theres something up with the RC's
Get a lead light of another bright light source & check for leaks.
Before you start, clean the area (Injectors, rail & manifold) with carb clean or brake clean & blow dry with an air gun.
Have a mate turn the ignition onto the reds (on & off etc) so the fuel pump primes (approx 5sec each time) & repeat a number of times untill you've checked thouroghly.
Any leak will show up as a wet patch, small jet or stream of fuel.
You shouldn't be able to smell fuel under the bonnet (hood)
Also check the rail isn't hung up on the plug, this can prevent the clip sitting home & being tight.
If you can smell fuel, you aught to do this before attempting to start the engine.
Fuel leaks are a potentially serious fire hazard.
Hope that helps
did you put new seals on it?
THe seals should be bigger than the hole and you need to lube the seal abit to make it fit. It should fit snuggly
hmm my connectors fit snuggly, not issues at all.
dw guys found out the problem there was a tongue inside the injector which stop the connector from going all the way in, all i did was cut a most of it off and file it down and it went on perfect... i only notice when i was taking photos of it today. well tired starting after that it started for 2secs and stalled think need to setup everything right to idle good
Sweet, well done man. Its always something simple and stoopid. Good job.
Have fun with it all and good luck. :thumbsup:
Now guys i got another problem that a little more complicated share some ideas it you can cause im kinda running out of them!!!
ok tired to run the motor and now it just wont start it cranking over but just wont fire up, fuel pressure is at 70psi, got spark, got injector pulse and it has fuel going into the bore know i shined a light down and could see fuel ontop of the pistons and the timing, ok check for compression all at 200psi. not even a back fire sprayed throttle body down the intake still the same. Im trying to start it on stock ECU i dont know it make a different chck for fault codes found none.
I running into a dead end, the theroy of getting a car to run is Air + Fuel + Spark/Ignition = start but it not happing lol
Im going to put my old injectors back in 2moro and see how that goes but if use come up with any other test i can do let me know cheers
Why is your fuel pressure at 70psi? It should be at 44psi or so.
yerh i changed it down to 45psi today and got the motor running it sound so nice and lumpy lol
the problem was the injectors swap my oem ones over and started on first go. so nows i got figure out why those injectors anit work right costed me 550 and they anit working WTF
What ECU are your running atm?
because the stock ecu cannot judge the sze of the injectors, its flooding.........and not letting it start..my opinion..............
just wait till you get ur ecu and then put them in and send it away for tune
Get a fire extinguisher. Incredibly cheap insurance.
^^^^^^^^^^autobarn......................for some heat wrap
use guys recon 1500 is expensive for 3''inch full exhaust system stainless steel with high flow cat mandrel bend?
Is that including the dump pipe? I got quoted about 800 for one tig welded for a cat back, metal cat should be about an extra 300.
not too bad............
do some shopping............find some workshops that have done this work before.............
Hi Guys,
My car is all done and ready to go for tuning. Im situated in Perth which really sucks..... I called up South West Custom which is hondata dealership for Perth and they got no tuners for hondata cause the guy left the place and didnt even let them know and they got no hondata stuff in stock which is really **** for a dealer. So i spoke to the guy their and he said his going to arrange for James to come over but never heard anything back for 3 weeks i tryed calling them but they never pick up any telephone calls like 5-6 times in a period of 30min WTF is with that no service at all.
so what use guys recond i should do? i want to use the hondata system it good for the price
should i start thinking of changing what ECU i should use like Apexi which is abit more pricey
Hondata $1100 with tuning
Apexi $1100-1200 with out tuning
Why bother with stainless, mild does the same thing for less price. I mean, if you routinely go under your car to admire a shiny exhaust then stainless is for you.
Stainless lasts longer. Part of the reason I got a complete stainless exhaust.
Regarding tuning - aparently there's one Hondata tuner in Perth, but he's out in the stix (Kalgoorlie i heard but not sure). I haven't read the whole post but my advice would be to have a chat to Zak and Gav at Cypher Industries. They are the knowledgable guys and are one of the few workshops in Perth that i would trust with my ITR. They have plenty of experience with turbo builds, but i think their preference is to tune the PFC and not the Hondata. I'd say customer support is pretty essential in your kind of build, and these guys won't let you down. On the down side, it will be more expensive but thats the way it is in Perth!
Hope this helps,
Joe
y dont you contact james direct and get him to make the trip for you..........
pm me for his details,
plus if you cut him a good deal, you may be able to get a group tune...........
welz i sent him an mail on hondatech and his email add and still no reply from him so i dont know if SWC is telling the truth or not:(
he is heaps busy.................like i said pm me and i will give you his contact details
sick................i hope its not too soon.............coz i want him to tune my car first.........lol
good luck with it all
He just emailed me to day it not comfirmed yet but he think it going to be 25 of April on a friday intill sunday....He is going to announce on hondatech this week he said. He will taking deposits to comfirm the booking. So Perth Honda Drivers show some support!!!:cool:
kool, good luck, that weekend is the anzac day weekend, wish you luck.
he will be tunning my dc2r hpefully next week, just after easter
Ill support him to come over but will tuning my civic be useful?
I don't think he would appreciate you posting his number out over the net
lol
i'm gonna start the prank calls
hmmm
wait
wait a lil bit later, bout 3am??
LOOOL
any updates????????
i got my dc2r tuned by james on friday night..................
mayde good power
I don’t have privileges to post or create a new thread in build threads :(
dun worry mine's not in there either
Yerh this thursday James coming over this thursday night his starting on my car on friday morning so i cant wait heys so excited
tuff................i got in just before he took off...lol
thank god he had to cancel on you guys last week....it gave me a chance to tune my babi.......................
good luck with it all
pm's sent to destrukshn & INTEG
send me one to! good to see u finally got it done! anyways along with the original thread....
come on INTEG.................
whats the results on your boosted teg............
i know that james is back in melb....................so come on spill the good news.........................................
Lol Wel we had alot of trouble with my car, with BC cams when it hits Vtec it looses all power, James said it either to big or the cams were badly manufractured so i had to put stock B16a cams in it which was only abliable at the time after all the head baging we made 164.8kw at the wheel which was pretty good could made more but my manifold was to resective
mmmmm..........thats interesting..............
on my set up with stock b18c7 dc2r motor turbo, once vtec was engaged it lost and stopped making torque....it also lost 30 or so kw then started to make power again..............
so what you gonna do now?????????????????
Yerh that was the thing we couldnt work out it lost everything torque and power like it lost compression. James was saying it could be be cams was badly manfractured so we stuck in B16a cams, thanks to alex and it was fine after that but i could only run 8pound once it got higher boost level the boost was unstable it was fluxuating to much
mmmmmmm.............
again its wierd..........because we had the same issue with mine, but i got stock standard b18c7 dc2r motor...................
ohh well...........i'll keep you posted on how it goes once i change a few things..............dizzy cap, rotor button, plugs leads & vtec solenoid filter.......i ordered them last week from my mate who works at honda.........should be in on monday................so once fitted and we check valve clearences........i will take it back for final tune and hopefully its fixed...
any updates man??????????