I tried Ampol Gold on a round trip of 600kms. It was fine. Seemed as good as the caltex stuff.
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I tried Ampol Gold on a round trip of 600kms. It was fine. Seemed as good as the caltex stuff.
ampol gold and caltex vortex is the same staff,caltex bought ampol out many years ago.
k20a and k20a2 are the same engines ones JDM which has higher compresion which is made to run on higher octane fuel and the other for THE AUSTRALIAN MARKET which is made to run on our crap fuel.The number is to tell you for which market the motor is made for.Doesnt mean that if you use high octane fuel on australian spec hondas your going to get the same power gain as the jdm spec.Any way in the future if you do serious engine work on your car they,ll tell you that you,ll have to run on higher octane.
If the k20a and k20a2 have different compression ratios, that means that the pistons are different. Also, from info when Hondata released their reflash for the k20a, they specified that the k20a has a wider throttle body as well as larger diameter headers. If the k20a makes its peak torque at a different rpm to the k20a2, then I suspect that the cams are different as well.
ok guys, pplz in parra area.
A couple weeks ago i was in parra to pick up a friend of mine at the BP servo on grt western hwy in parra. when i was waiting the fuel truck truck guy came in and was Re-filling the petrol silo's. So i went to chat to him aas i waiting for my friend. i asked him how BP ultimate compared to other petrols such as optimax. He said all the servo's in parra area get there petrol from the same manufacturer, dunnoz the name. but he said he fills up petrol for other petrols station as well, such as shell, caltex, no sure about mobil though.
But my thoughts is that the servo adds other stuff to the petrol they get, but we still dun know this.
Most of the petrols come from the same refiner. Just blended to different specs for each brand. Does he go from station to station or does he go back to the refinery everytime after refilling one station? If he goes back, he might be getting a different load each time.
Not unusual for the servo to take all the compartments of the tanker. In terms of the servo - banana - they don't add anything to the fuel. You are talking about individual tanks that can hold large amounts (eg 40,000 litres for one product). You will appreciate that the servo can't mix anything given those quantities.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
With the standard fuel - eg unleaded it doesn't surprise me that the smaller distributors use the same fuel. They used to do the same when my family ran a servo (until the late 1990s). It just depends on which area you are in and which distributor can offer the best gate price. We mostly ran BP fuel but sometimes Shell if it was cheaper. It came in the same tanker by the same driver. The customer never knew the difference. (This was totally legal by the way)
I don't know enough about how the 98 rons are distributed as we never stocked it back then.
bp ultimate are the best here in wa, i heard vortex98 are the best in eastern state right ?
I've been using optimax since the euro was bought. Yesterday, I decided to try the shell ultra (95ron) and see how much difference it makes. Will see if the mileage is affected much. I do mostly start/stop driving even though the average trip would be about 30 mins for 10 km. Ultra is 4c cheaper than optimax. If the ECU is not able to advance timing to take advantage of 98... then the $ may be wasted?
Even with the $2 saving per tank.. it's probably worthwhile spending it to err on the higher ron side.
But I'll see how this goes...
(i pumped in 55L so there's about 10L of of optimax to dilute)
EDIT: Does anyone else here use 95RON fuel regularly (instead of 98) on their euro?
I prolly use 95RON 1/2 the time and 98 RON the other half. Depends where I am and what bowser is free. I never go 3 tanks though without filling up with 98RON (usually BP).
I notice an economy difference, get about 50km's more on 98RON but no real power difference.
The euro appears to be able to take advantage of the 98 over the 95 based on what you've experienced.
But what type of driving though to get that 50km difference?
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Originally Posted by BiLL|z0r
I do mostly city driving, avg 38km's/hr (according to another car doing the same job).
My god, i had no idea that there was a difference in fuel types depending on the petrol station. I always just went to the one with the lowest cost/L. Thanks for the insight.
Also, Optimax, Ultimate and Synergy 8000 are 10 cents more expensive than regular 91 octane. Vortex 98 on the other hand is 11 cents more!
I've made the switch to Optimax from BP now, thanks to the rising prices and well, I have heaps of COLES docket to use up :D...
Would prefer to use Ultimate because it's cleaner but at this time.. Optimax is the go for me.... Sadly....
A little off my topic here, but here is another reason I go to Shell, when I filled up there last on Monday the guy behind the counter asked which bowser I was using, when I told him he said "Oh the Euro owner, damn nice car dude, is that this years model?". I said yeah it is this years luxury model with the bigger rims etc then he said "What would you give her out of 10, I reckon it deserves a 10, I love Euro's and yours looks damn nice in red"!
Ok so now that he inflated my ego I am going to this particular Shell every time :D Anyone else have this sorta thing happen? (The Milano Red Euro looks damn nice clean and under those Servo lights btw, gotta take some happy snaps!) :)
I notice Vortex is normally 6-7 cents more in Melbourne which I already think is too much. 11 cents is a lot more. :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I made the switch from BP Ultimate to Shell Optimax for the same reason too. Heaps of dockets (some 8c instead of 4c) and the rising prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
However, since making the switch, I actually think the car runs a little smoother on Optimax than it does on Ultimate. It just seems really smooth.
Vortex is only 95 oct. I like Vortex98. Feels like Synergy 8000 but with a 4 cent off voucher from Woolies. Think of it as 1 cent more than Optimax and 3 cents cheaper than Synergy8000. I found better consumption with Vortex98 over Optimax. I have been using it over a 5 month period.Quote:
Originally Posted by eurosp
That happened at the Caltex that I used! I told him, "pump no. 5 please". And he said "Have you given a thought about lowering it? The Euro looks so nice when it is lowered with slightly larger rims. Do you have any plans for performance mods too?" :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Thorn2004
Don't ya love the attention? :D I have even had a guy come up to me when filling up at a different Shell wanting to take a look at the car lol! I am serious, he was filling up infront of me and out of the blue just said "nice car, is that a Euro?". Next thing I know he is walkin over and asked if he could take a look coz he was thinking about buying one himself! I think I sold him with my tour! Another time 2 dudes were walking past my Euro in the driveway and stopped to take a look!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Gotta love Euro's :)
Once when I stopped by at Harry's for a hot dog, I had just locked my car when this middle-aged guy came over and asked me how's the car. He said he had just bought the Accord VTi from Queensland and was going to drive it down!
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Originally Posted by Alpine
Isn't BP linked with IGA or something? I don't like IGA... Overpriced.....:wave:
i have had four people knock on the door and ask if i wanna sell my euro?!
there is def something about the car.......
BP ultimate btw.
I only see the word Vortex, or premium unleaded at the caltex, at least the Caltex I go to. Can any confirm if there are Vortex98 in Melbourne?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Vortex is only 95 octane. Maybe it hasn't started selling in Melbourne. In Sydney, the Vortex logo has a green background while the Vortex98 has a gray background.
Yeah, it is the Green Vortex Logo. I have to look around for the Vortex98 now.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
we don't get Vortex here. But We do have caltex, and I always see a BP Tanker pull up to fill the Caltex station. So Caltex here is actually BP is it the same down south ?
My hypothesis (guess) is that for 91 octane, most of the stations of different brands get their petrol from the same source. So they are all the same. Only at 98 and maybe even 95 octane, the refinery makes it to the specification that the company wants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catcha
Yeap but not all IGA's give you the 4c discount coupon :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
And it's even more frustrating when it happens at the local store...and there's a BP just down the road from it with Ultimate.
Anyone has an opinion on the new Shell Extreme 100Ron with 5% ethanol? It is only available in limited servo.
yer, it's a rip off.
We only need 95 octane. With the 98 octanes here in australia, they were formulated to be of higher density, so they give better mileage. But the 100 octane I suspect is a 98 octane with 5% added ethanol. The ethanol gives 2 points extra octane to make 100. It should therefore be cheaper to produce than Optimax 98 octane.
At first i will be putting Vortech 95ron in mine, as it supported 245rwkw in my Commodore without a trace of knock, so it should be pretty good for the Euro i reckon.
This is an argument ive said over and over on this site, the car runs smoother on BP Ultimate..i love it and i was a massive Shell fanboy due to their Ferrari connection but ive since seen the light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpine
How about mileage? WHich is prolly hte most important factor?
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Originally Posted by Ferrarista
The most important is the amount of throttle you give and the amount of load that the engine is having.Quote:
Originally Posted by V205
The gear you are in and the RPM just changes the amount of load and throttle.
Fair comment, but the objective is to quantify the value of the fuel.
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Originally Posted by aaronng
If just on the fuel side, then it would have to be the amount of energy that the fuel can give you for a fixed amount. Since Optimax and a few other 98 octanes are supposedly higher density, they should give you more energy per unit weight and so you need less of it to reach your desired speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by V205