Yeah Bridgestone are just crap.. :(
YFIN was the only person complaining of a drift to the left before he did his mods, I think?
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Yeah Bridgestone are just crap.. :(
YFIN was the only person complaining of a drift to the left before he did his mods, I think?
Yes you are right I remember yfin mentioned that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
Taken from Bridgestones site:-
"With leading high-performance vehicles fitting the Potenza RE040 as original equipment (OE), this tyre is a proven performer. Distinctive features are sports performance, comfort and enhanced handling in wet and dry conditions.
Its super slant tread design, coupled with DONUTS technology, provides sports performance with precision handling, greater manoeuvrability and superb grip. " I hope they are right...
If I change the tyres, which I shouldn't have too anyway, i'm scared that if I do and it doesn't fix the problem what then? And there's the issue of my steering wheel, can't get it straight...These goons at the dealership when adjusted the k-frame caused me another head ache damn, thats why they can't get my steering wheel straight now (pain in the ass).
It's because the RE030 is slightly asymmetrical that it pulls to the right. Also explains that LHD cars end up pulling to the right as well with these tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Someone should trade their new 17" tyres back to the dealer for some other brand of tyres.
Lxry, you need to try 4 tyres that are worn even front and back. Just the fronts is not good enough if you are trying to work out what is causing the tracking problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
If on the stock 16" rims and tyres your car is tracking ok - doesn't that suggest to you that the culprit is either your 17" rims and/or tyres?
Honda, consumer affairs, etc is not going to help you now the car tracks ok with the 16" stocks - I thought you were running the OEM 17" with the Bridgestones. Maybe you are - I am just a bit confused now as to the specs of your car?
So what sort of rims are they? What size and offset? Have you had the tyres off the rim and the rims checked to see whether they spin true? What tyres are you running and in what size...?
Still lots of avenues to explore I think. If safety is a concern then I suggest you keep your stock 16" rims on until you investigate more.
It is a directional tyre though yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Is the Euro Lux's tyre the Potenza RE030 or the RE050?Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
The one on the RE030 that the IS250 owner was complaining about had this thread:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...enza_re030.jpg
If you notice, when you mount the tyre on the left side of the car, you get the outer blocks pointing forwards while the inner blocks point backwards
Now, if you imagine putting the same tyre on the right side (Bridgestone doesn't make a L and R tyres for this series), you get the outer block pointing backwards and inner block pointing forwards, even if you flip the tyre around. So on your car, all left sides of you tyres point forward while all right sides point backward.
If I remember correctly, you're meant to have it sweep forward to minimise rolling resistance when moving forward. I think that since the tyres have this bias on each side that the left side of the tyres have less rolling resistance than the right side. So the tyres would tend to pull to the right since the right sides have more resistance.
In order to test this theory, you could overinflate your tyres to try to get the middle thread to bulge out more so that the side blocks have less influence on your vehicle. If with overinflation you solve or reduce your right-pulling problem, then my theory could be correct.
And for the base Euro with the SP Sport 2050m, our threads are like this:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...2050_ci2_l.jpg
Notice that the outer blocks are actually straight and only point forwards much further out towards the sidewall.
("When I got to the car dealership, I found my car with stock rims and stock tyres....They told me that it was because of the low profile tyres that i was experiencing this problem...They wanted me to drive it with stocks to prove this. To be honest i had a bit of a laugh about this.")
I've done this already as my car came with the 16"rims and i have swapped them back and forth.Absolutely no drift with these rims and tyres, and in fact a much better steering response and "feel" generally. Soon as i swap back to the 17" rims with the Potenzas....drifts to right, and also ive noticed that when braking to stop on rough, gravel or pot holed surfaces car pulls heavily to right about 1/2 turn of steering wheel.Again no such effect with the standard rims and tyres.
What is most telling about all this is that people with 17" rims and tyres, other than the Potenzas, are not having the problem.
I changed the Bridgestones for Conti Sport contact 2s when it was brand new!I now have 6500ks.Wearing well,NO drifting at all(apart from camber of road.I've also lowered it with Eibach pro springs and camber kit,Bilstein shocks.When i picked it up new the steering wheel was off centre a bit.I didn't worry getting it straightened as the week after i got it lowered.Personally i don't like Bridgestones,overpriced' too firm a ride and so on.It MUST be the tyres.Get the dealer to put some OEM 17s from another car on and see what happens????Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Ok, noticed that the Lux has RE040 instead which has this thread:
http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires...e040_ci2_l.jpg
Could someone check that all 4 of your tyres are mounted in the right orientation with the outer blocks all facing in one direction?
Yep all outer blocks are all facing the same way on mine
Dammit... my theory is a failure. http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4463/tfr7a7bs8.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I'm back on the OEM 17"s, sorry for the confusion. They swapped them over just to show me that it wasn't the fault of the car, that it was the low profile tyres and this was normal for the car to do this with low profile tyres...this i can understand (drift when road cambers) but when i brought the car in at the 10,000klm service it was pulling that BAD to the right on a STRAIGHT road they had to adjust the k-frame to compensate for the drifting? Why adjust the K-frame? Well because it was drifting very, very, very bad, unsafe bad why didn't they tell me this was normal then...pfftt
When I talk of safety issue I mean when my car was at 4000-5000klm's, not now.
My car is still not 100% it doesn't drift on a staright road anymore, but still drifts to the right HARDER than the left, somethings not right, it's irritating to me as I'm always having to fight the steering when road camber to the right, left not a problem.
I wouldn't change to 16" even if they paid me. When i bought the car the bigger rims and low profile tyres where one of the factors that influenced me buying the car aswell, thats why I bought the luxury model and not the stock. Now because of this problem with the tyres I have to fork out of my pocket for new tyres? Does this seem fair? Is it my responsibility to do this? In the end I'll put new tyres on my car but at the moment I am fuming...and will do whatever it takes to prove that they are wrong, not only for me now but for everyone who buys and has bought euro's with this problem. :(