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Originally Posted by yfin

You need to be licensed to work on a vehicle in every state... eg:

http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Ab...gausedcar.html


Maintenance

Your car should come with a logbook or owner’s handbook that sets out when the vehicle should be serviced and what maintenance needs to be done. If the car is still under warranty and you don’t have it serviced to the manufacturer’s maintenance schedule, you may void the warranty. As long as the service is carried out in accordance with the manufacturer’s specifications, any licensed repairer can do it, not just the dealer from whom you purchased the car. If you don’t have a logbook, ask the repairer or manufacturer to explain what is involved with each type of service and its associated cost.

Motor vehicle repairers

In NSW, repairers must be licensed to work on your car. To hold a licence a repairer must meet criteria contained in the Motor Vehicle Repairs Act 1980. For more information visit www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au

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sorry to inform you that a mechanic does not need to hold a license in QLD

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Originally Posted by buddah51au

sorry to inform you that a mechanic does not need to hold a license in QLD

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fair enough - whether it is by way of licence, registration or trade - however you want to categorise it - one must be a professional qualified mechanic for warranty to be protected anywhere in Australia. The poster appears to be suggesting that Honda must honour a DIY backyard service. This is not correct.

Fortunately I have never needed to test out Honda on any warranty issues. I am a Licensed Mechanic & do all my own servicing. But I will say I have never had a problem with the 5 Honda's i have owned.

As for someone who is unlicensed doing there own servicing I guess you would have to weigh up the substantial amount of money you save on service costs against any warranty claims

Quick question: your first complimentary service is@1,000km and the second scheduled service is@10,000km etc. So if one was to change their oil & filter@5,000km, how's that gonna work? How will Honda know if it was a DIY job or a licenced mechanic's job?

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Originally Posted by nickxau

Quick question: your first complimentary service is@1,000km and the second scheduled service is@10,000km etc. So if one was to change their oil & filter@5,000km, how's that gonna work? How will Honda know if it was a DIY job or a licenced mechanic's job?

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If you keep your lips sealed, use genuine parts only, they won't know. But in saying that you won't have black oil when 10,000km service comes around.

But there is the problem......a 10,000km service costs around $180 to $200. Buying Genuine Oil & filter over the counter costs me $47 bucks, so conservatively I save $130 to $150 every service. It soon adds up.

In NSW you only have to be licensed when you want to be employed as a mechanic or earn money repairing cars. You certainly don't need to be licensed to work on your own car.

There are certain items on your car that you can't service yourself such as air bags and LPG tanks and in these cases you must be licensed when repairing those items yourself.

Here is the link: http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tr...Licensing.html

I would expect yfin to remove the "incorrect advice" comment in my CP and give himself one.

Sure anyone can change the oil.....
The problem is you need to be licensed if you want to keep your warranty. ;)
Buddah is a mechanic! ;)

I guess I am lucky in that area & am able to save considerable $$$$$. @ things i need to do for the CU2 is find the valve clearance, and the location of the fuel filter, but plenty of time for that.

I did my first oil change & filter @ 5,000km and am very keen to go to fully synthetic @ 10,000km. Actually considering weather to use Nulon & support Ausie Made or Mobil 1. The crazy thing is my local dealer said if i don't use Honda FEO (a cheap mineral oil) I will void my warranty & they wont stamp my log book. Something to consider.

Add to that if I use FEO i will change oil & filter every 5,000km, but if I go Synthetic I will revert to 10,000km service intervals. So in that regard it makes me wonder if there is much to gain by going full Synthetic. Have to make a decision soon....lol

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Originally Posted by HVF00T

In NSW you only have to be licensed when you want to be employed as a mechanic or earn money repairing cars. You certainly don't need to be licensed to work on your own car.

There are certain items on your car that you can't service yourself such as air bags and LPG tanks and in these cases you must be licensed when repairing those items yourself.

Here is the link: http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tr...Licensing.html

I would expect yfin to remove the "incorrect advice" comment in my CP and give himself one.

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Do you still believe that Honda must honour warranty if an unqualified person does their own oil changes? That is what you were suggesting earlier and that is wrong.

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Originally Posted by yfin

Do you still believe that Honda must honour warranty if an unqualified person does their own oil changes? That is what you were suggesting earlier and that is wrong.

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I never said unqualified. I said you don't need a license.

A "qualified" person in this case is someone that knows how to remove and replace a sump plug, remove and replace an oil filter, fill an engine with oil and check the level. You don't need to be licensed to do this nor will it void your warranty.

I expect you and others in this forum to use a bit of common sense. If I change my oil, forget to tighten the sump plug properly and the engine seizes, of course I don't expect Honda to cover the repairs under warranty.

But if I change the oil using an API service SL or higher grade oil, fit an OEM Honda oil filter, tighten the sump plug to the correct torque and ensure the oil level is correct, and the engine seizes, I would expect Honda to repair under warranty because a licensed mechanic would have done exactly as I did when changing the oil.

You need to give others in this forum some credit and assume they have some common sense and basic intellect. If some people are not comfortable changing their own oil, then by all means go and pay someone to do it.

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Originally Posted by buddah51au

...The crazy thing is my local dealer said if i don't use Honda FEO (a cheap mineral oil) I will void my warranty & they wont stamp my log book. Something to consider.

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You need to watch out for that. The standard factory warranty and factory extended warranty does not dictate the use of Honda FEO (i'm sure yfin will disagree with me), just the API grade and viscosity. You need to be careful with a dealer extended warranty though as they tend to have very stringent conditions; eg you can only service the car at the dealer you bought it from.

I suggest you (and everyone else reading this) read the conditions of your warranty and especially any extended dealer warranty conditions and come to your own conclusion. Don't just take the word of the dealer (or me or yfin) because obviously they want you to spend all your money with them.

If you don't have an extended warranty with that dealer, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by HVF00T

I never said unqualified. I said you don't need a license.

A "qualified" person in this case is someone that knows how to remove and replace a sump plug, remove and replace an oil filter, fill an engine with oil and check the level. You don't need to be licensed to do this nor will it void your warranty.

I expect you and others in this forum to use a bit of common sense. If I change my oil, forget to tighten the sump plug properly and the engine seizes, of course I don't expect Honda to cover the repairs under warranty.

But if I change the oil using an API service SL or higher grade oil, fit an OEM Honda oil filter, tighten the sump plug to the correct torque and ensure the oil level is correct, and the engine seizes, I would expect Honda to repair under warranty because a licensed mechanic would have done exactly as I did when changing the oil.

You need to give others in this forum some credit and assume they have some common sense and basic intellect. If some people are not comfortable changing their own oil, then by all means go and pay someone to do it.

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Knowing how rarely Honda have warranty issues with engines most people would never have to worry if they are unlicensed & done their own servicing. However if something did happen to go wrong I would hate to to be the one to test that comment.

Being self taught in any field does not make you qualified in that particular field. In saying that I know Basic Servicing on Modern Cars is very straight forward, but I believe any Manufacturer would have a right to refuse a warranty repair where an unlicensed or non trades person has done their own servicing.