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Waitaminutethere... you mean your car pulls to the left as well???? If it pulls in both directions, then it is a low profile tyre issue following imperfections in the road (no public road is perfect. Go to a track or airstrip for perfect roads). Most people who complain about pulling only get it in one direction, and that is clearly a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Left is normal, it will drift a bit when road cambers, I understand this aaronng, but right is not within normal sorry. You make it sound as if I'm nit picking lol...Like I said in my previous posts my car is not as bad as before now.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
wish I posted when my car was at 4000-5000klm's.
Does anyone believe me :confused:
My Euro has 16" on them. It also follows road cambers left and right. Even grooves on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
I'm not denying the fact that you have a problem with the car pulling to the right. I'm just wondering if the drift to the left and right that you have is the same as tramlining that all Euros have as a sacrifice for better steering response.
No not tramlining issue here aaronng, definite problem with drifting to the right buddy. I enjoy the steering response actually, love the feel of the road. hehe...Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Honda Australia replied to my complaint about the car pulling to the right.
They have issued a service notice, which my local service centre got; it's a checklist of procedures to follow in the event a car is pulling, which they followed.
Yes, Service Manager confirmed ... it pulled to one side (all the way to the other lane) in less than 6 sec @ 100Kph.
They rotated the tyres ... problem rectified (for now) @ 3300Klm.
However, I pointed out that they had already rotated the tyres @ 1000Klm, for exactly the same problem (it's on record) and asked if they would need another rotation in another 2000Klm?
The Service Manager replied that if so, it would confirm in his mind that it is the tyres and not a problem with the car.
It sounds stupid to me that you guys are blaming the tyres for the "drift".
Hi Type R PositiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I'm not blaming the tyres, I'm utilising the Honda Service Notice through a Honda service department to find and rectify the problem.
When the tyres were new (no problem) at 500Klm's drifting to the right (problem), at 1000Klm's tyre's rotated (no problem), then at 2000Klm's it started drifting again (problem), at 3000Klm's tyres rotated (no problem) if it starts up again at 4000Klm's ... I'll be asking for new tyres.
"Must be the tyres" Honda Service Manager.
Do you have any other suggestions?
I believe you LXRYQuote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Type R Positive,not sure why you seem so reluctant to believe the tyres could be at fault.These types of problems have occurred many times with different brands of tyres in my 30 years of experience as a mechanic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
How many times do i have to say it.When i fit the 16" rims with the Dunlop non-directional tyres i have no steering problem with my car.As soon as i swap back to the Honda 17" rims with the Potenza Re040's my car drifts right.Lots of people on this forum are running 17" and 18" rims with other tyres and not getting the problem.You dont have to be Einstein to work it out.
I think what LXRY meant with his car drifting to both left and right is exactly what I said a few pages ago.
1) If road cambers left, car drifts to left slightly as 'normal', or sometimes not at all despite the uneven road.
2) If road is straight and flat, the car sometimes track straight, sometimes drifts right.
3) If road cambers to the right, then the car pulls to the right very HARD.
Just say in condition 1, the road cambers at 10 degrees to left - the car will drift left only slightly.
But if it now cambers at 10 degrees to the right, just exactly opposite to above condition - the car will drift very very hard to the right. So the effect isn't proportional.
Anyway, yes the Bridgestone RE040's don't have that anti-directional tread on the outer blocks, its pretty much one directional everywhere, so that reason can't explain why it pulls to the right.
I'll never put a tyre like that RE030 on my car btw!
I'll never buy one of those Goodyear Eagle GS-D3s either, coz with that kind of aero tread, when it runs down a bit the car wants to skate everywhere in the wet. Nearly got killed by them a few times, even though they're tops when brand new...
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I think that the Honda Service or Honda Australia might be wrong to blame it on the tyres if you need to rotate them continuously. Because, most people's LUXURYs don't drift at the beginning, but only does so after a few thousand kms. Then you rotate them front and rear, and the problem goes away for the time being.
What does this say? It means, the front and rear tyres are geometrically wearing differently. This sounds more like the car caused the tyres to wear this way rather than the other way around.
The other thing - 16" tyres NOT drifting doesn't mean the problem isn't there. The fact that 16" have higher profile and softer tyre sidewalls just means they're not wearing out in the same manner that the 17's RE040's do, because the tyre contact patch on the 16" can adapt perpendicularly to the road more easily.
3rdly, most people on this forum with OTHER 17" and 18" tyres are using aftermarket suspension of springs & shocks or coilovers, etc. You can't compare those with a car still on the stock suspension and tyres package!
You guy's with the "problem", have you had lazer allignment?Quote:
Originally Posted by cgspot
Maybe they set the car to track straight on Aussie cambered roads?Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
This is why I believe it is an allignment issue.