cooool wanna know how does it go after the intake install.. (as i'm saving up for one now) XD
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cooool wanna know how does it go after the intake install.. (as i'm saving up for one now) XD
Let us know how the Intake Manifold went as I have heard a lot of different opinions :D
I think he got it installed today.
It's heaps wet up hear, so should totally roll his car into a big puddle... I mean, no way, I'm his mate, I wouldn't do that...
We'll make a video showing throttle response and performance ect. Except we don't have any before footage... anyone have a stock DC2 and want to donate some time?
It is currently in the garage...
I will let everyone know my impressions after the drive home :)
Ok, it's been a while since I last posted an update...
Since I last posted, I have:
-Fitted the Injen CAI + Skunk2 Intake Manifold
-Snapped my knock sensor in the process :/
-Bought a JDM ITR 23mm Rear Sway bar
The sway bar just arrived like 5 minutes ago, DAMN! it's solid! :D I have my ASR kit ready, so that is ready to all go on together. Hopefully this weekend if Pat wants to help me lol. And thanks Mike, yeah apparently it's some limited edition hence the unique colour.
As for the new intake setup: VERY happy with it. The Injen CAI alone was money well spent. It's very noticeable in the top end. The change to a single-stage manifold has also been very good. I really can feel that it's breathing much easier and it builds revs easier. It's a good feeling when it pulls harder and harder closer to redline. Next on the list after coilovers will definitely be some good quality header.
For those considering/wondering if the Intake + Manifold option is worthwhile, I can give you a firm YES. I myself was pretty skeptical about the manifold mostly, I read abit about people saying I would lose lots of power down in the low/mid range. Sadly I've only driven the car at like this for a couple days, as i'll explain further on. Here is what I can say from real-life, personal experience:
Pro's:
-Much more haste to reach higher revs when you give it some
-Car is a whole heap more responsive above 2500rpm, pedal feel is very nice
-It's definitely quicker (no, it's not just the sound making me think it's quicker. I can feel there is more power)
-VTEC crossover remains very smooth, but once in VTEC, it really takes off.
-The stock intake is so twisty and just looks so restrictive. It's a good feeling knowing your motor has a plentiful supply of fast flowing cool air.
-Fuel consumption is better. I'm not joking.
-Last but not least, who can go past the sound of VTEC through a CAI? The sound is incredible, it literally screams it's nuts off above 5000rpm. Not to mention the sound of single-stage crossover, it's just soo good. It's also nice to be able to hear the engine ticking away, it's almost like the larger intake chamber amplifies the noise of the engine ;)
Con's:
- Yes, there IS a slight flat spot in power just after VTEC crossing over, from 4600-5500rpm. I'm guessing this is due to the fact that the stock tune was for the completely different OEM manifold. The stock ecu has VTEC engage at 4600rpm. I'm guessing that if it was higher, at say 5500 or 6000rpm, this wouldnt happen. Personally, i'm not bothered as Hondata + a tune is on the way for me.
-Yes, there is a little less response down very low in the range, i'm talking <1500rpm here, nothing really to be worried about. This is inherent with the CAI.
-It's so LOUD! Not that I see that as a negative though, some might but. Just be aware lol...
-It's a CAI. You have to be careful of those deep puddles.
-Be very careful during installation of your knock sensor. Due to the deletion of the Dual-stage Butterfly setup, there is a plug that is let unplugged as the butterfly system is deleted with this new manifold. This plug is on the same wire as your knock sensor. Somewhere along the line, I've stretched my loom (specifically the cables attached to the knock sensor) and pulled/snapped the knock sensor right off. Be careful if you do this, Honda ask $260 trade price for a new one. I luckily found one from Adrian at Toda for MUCH less than that. But yes, with no knock sensor you will get a CEL and after doing the DIY paper-clip OBD scan, I found it was code 23, so I looked in the bay and found my sensor just hanging by the cable. Once that CEL comes on, goodbye performance lol. The ecu has started retarding my ignition, therefore making the car annoyingly gutless. This should be fixed by next week though, and it shouldn't do any harm to your motor.
That's my honest opinion of this combination. It is VERY worthwhile, I myself consider it money well spent. The knock sensor issue is of my own making, so it's not really a negative of the doing the swap, it can be avoided with care.
What may interest some is that I am currently still using the stock VTi-R throttle body! Unfortunately I didn't have the foresight to realise that the Type R TB I was planning on putting on opens the other way of the VTi-R one. To install the bigger throttle body you will need:
-Long Throttle cable from pretty much any other B/D series. The B18c2 one is very short due to the unique intake manifold design on this enginem, and the ITR TB requires a different mounting point and bracket. I will elaborate on this later when I post up some pics. But yes, back to the point that i'm still using the smaller throttle body. I think that after switching to the bigger one I should expect even better throttle respnse and maybe if I'm lucky even a bit more in the top end.
I can't really think of much else other than that... I've driven through a couple QLD storms and I havnt had any problems with the Injen yet lol, although I am alot more mindful of deeper puddles now. And apart from the knock sensor issue which bugs me, I'm very very happy and satisfied with the gains from the parts i've added. I can only imagine how much better it would be with a good tune though...
Next on the cards is installing this sway bar. After that, I have BuddyClub N+ coils on the way and then once I have abit more to spend I will start looking for some quality headers.
Any questions, just ask! I'm happy to answer :) Thanks!
Yea man, install the sway bar before the cruise next weekend. You got endlinks and bushings yet ? It'll make the GC cruise much nicer in the twisties.
Springs and shocks next for me. Maybe Koni Yellow and Eibach Pro or sportline.
time for a pic of the bay =) or a video
Yeah I intend to Mike. Really keen for this drive. I have everything, even new endlinks, all brand new oem items from Honda Japan (thanks Yonas and JDMyard for that).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikecivic78
And sure thing Jono, pictures and a video or two are definitely on the way :D
text me tomorrow if you are installing sway bar etc
Cool, I'm planning on doing it tomorrow as Sundays my day off this week.
Time for some pictures :)
Stock Engine bay:
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OEM Manifold
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Overall
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OEM Manifold:
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Open butterflies:
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Closed butterflies (6000rpm onwards):
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New Intake setup:
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My knock sensor (green plug) *this should be in the block*:
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Best DIY ever lol:
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