NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

Sounds like they are detuning the car...

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Originally Posted by Euro08Jaz

Sounds like they are detuning the car...

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Yep, my guy told me he thought they would retard the ignition = less power and fuel economy :(

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Originally Posted by VIDSEURO

unfortunately thewizzard is fulla shyte....
so to thewizzard pull your head in and get real man.
These posts are for educated people who want to share
useful information not Bull Shit

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Don't be so quick to judge people. That letter you got seems to be a standard canned response to this pinging issue that Honda Australia gives out to anyone asking about it.

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Originally Posted by Euro08Jaz

Sounds like they are detuning the car...

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I still wonder if they can do this without the risk of people claiming refunds...If you purchased a Ferrari and it got detuned would you demand you money back if the performance was lost?

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Originally Posted by Joystick

I still wonder if they can do this without the risk of people claiming refunds...If you purchased a Ferrari and it got detuned would you demand you money back if the performance was lost?

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That would depend on what you want. Do you want a car that doesn't ping or not?

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Originally Posted by unity

That would depend on what you want. Do you want a car that doesn't ping or not?

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umm... pinging (or in honda's term post-combustion ignition), is considered a defect... I wont buy something NEW from a reputable brand and expect defects in it.

it would be a different story, if I had bought some bargain dodgy MiC xx-con-xx brands.

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Originally Posted by unity

That would depend on what you want. Do you want a car that doesn't ping or not?

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It shouldn't be an either/or proposition. What's wrong with expecting a new car to perform to its specifications without pinging?

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Originally Posted by bk212

It shouldn't be an either/or proposition. What's wrong with expecting a new car to perform to its specifications without pinging?

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I agree with you, but current owner's unfortunately don't have that luxury. They will either have to put up with the pinging or get the software update which may change the characteristics of the car. Neither option is acceptable. There needs to be better laws to protect consumers in this situation.

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Originally Posted by unity

I agree with you, but current owner's unfortunately don't have that luxury. They will either have to put up with the pinging or get the software update which may change the characteristics of the car. Neither option is acceptable. There needs to be better laws to protect consumers in this situation.

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Yeah you're probably right. It may be that there is some remedy under the Trade Practices Act, but it's just too hard for an individual consumer to go down that path. Maybe we should get one of the current affairs programs onto the case!

Anyway I think I would rather have less performance than put up with this noise - it's terrible.

The car has already gained 200 odd kilos over the previous model, I'd hate to have even less power and torque that what the car currently has. :(

Honda Australia should be offering some sort of goodwill measure as compensation. I think people concerned should push for a free extended 2 year warranty to cover for possible problems down the track.

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Originally Posted by unity

Honda Australia should be offering some sort of goodwill measure as compensation. I think people concerned should push for a free extended 2 year warranty to cover for possible problems down the track.

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that or money back guarantee