We just may get the JDM CTR in Australia.

too bad for those CTRR owners lol there was only 300 made.. it'd lose it value cos everyone will fit in a mugen kit on it

The FN2R is a real Type-R... I've come to that realisation now, and there is no point in arguing the fact.

However, this doesn't change the fact that the car is a POS. IMHO.

just less than a year ago ppl were so excited to get the FN2R.lol
the FN2R is a Type-R nodoubt. if you guys want Honda to develop cars like the DC2R nowadays, it wont sell because of the change in the market, and look at all the rivials who have all the luxury features along with the speed.
A type r with no aircon, reduced sound deadning, loud engine.....would be a joke, 90% of the ppl who buy one are alot older than ppl on this forum so they will expect a more subtle ride, comfortable etc...

As to the FD2R, i hope it makes it here but like someone said if they bring it after the new euro and jazz launch, ppl might lose interest.

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just less than a year ago ppl were so excited to get the FN2R.lol
the FN2R is a Type-R nodoubt. if you guys want Honda to develop cars like the DC2R nowadays, it wont sell because of the change in the market, and look at all the rivials who have all the luxury features along with the speed.
A type r with no aircon, reduced sound deadning, loud engine.....would be a joke, 90% of the ppl who buy one are alot older than ppl on this forum so they will expect a more subtle ride, comfortable etc...

As to the FD2R, i hope it makes it here but like someone said if they bring it after the new euro and jazz launch, ppl might lose interest.

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my friend you speak the truth!

the old type Rs have a strong following indeed. I bet alot of people on here didnt even buy them brand new, when they were released they didnt sell super quick either. Thats why the 2nd hand type R market is so strong.

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What you mean it's not a real Type R? It's branded Type R, sold as Type R, marketed as Type R, registered as Type R, insured as Type R, hell it even has Type R badges inside and out.

Integras and Civics with fake Type R badges are non type Rs.

What you're referring to is that there are 2 civic type Rs. One is for the european/australian market and the other is for the asian market. Both are Type R's no matter what you think it is.

Your FD1 is what we call a non Type R.

And don't give me that "its not as hardcore or raw" crap.

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at least. DMX's FD got DC5 Brembo and Quad pipe ...lol

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what i'm said no offense to fn2r owner, just my 2cents
like merc E200 or S320, it's merc, sold as merc, registeres as merc,and bla bla bla, but for us, it's "shemale" :thumbdwn:

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d*** u,got new c-class ? said just looking for MPV ?

Why is the DC2R loved by many on this forum and claimed to be the most "realest and hardcore" Type R? Because it's older, cheaper and affordable by most of those young members on OzHonda.

90% of the people here are 18-23 year old uni students or apprentices. Not that there is anything wrong with that as I was once a uni student myself, but I struggle to believe that if we do get the FD2R in Australia most of you would actually purchase it.

18-23 year old full time students and $50,000 - $60,000 for a car just doesn't logically correlate. You would not even have saved a quarter of that working at McDonalds or in telemarketing. Oh, and international students with rich mummy's and daddy's in Hong Kong, Taiwan, China or whatever is an exception - of course mummy and daddy will buy it for you.

I bet in 8 years time the market for an FN2R would be strong and all of a sudden guess what? It's a "real" Type R.

So in return for the criticisms, I believe, in my honest opinion, that both the DC2R and DC5R cars are pieces of shit. Just my four cents worth.

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Why is the DC2R loved by many on this forum and claimed to be the most "realest and hardcore" Type R? Because it's older, cheaper and affordable by most of those young members on OzHonda.

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Wrong. It's because when you compare a JDM spec DC2R to an AUDM spec DC2R, it is down only by 6kW and some minor suspension differences. When you look at the DC5R, the AUDM spec loses 17kW, Brembos and even gets smaller wheels.

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Wrong. It's because when you compare a JDM spec DC2R to an AUDM spec DC2R, it is down only by 6kW and some minor suspension differences. When you look at the DC5R, the AUDM spec loses 17kW, Brembos and even gets smaller wheels.

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I believe the AUDM DC5R get slightly different suspension settings from the JDM as well? (E.g swaybar, spring rate etc)

it also got to do to the fact that at the days of DC2R, it was the FF king on the market.

now, becos by sticking to the so called "type R philosophy", FN2R is lacking a bit in the performance sense.

also many ppl believes JDM = best while failing to realise that FN2R is designed for a completely different target market as the FD2R. it is a bit like the GT3 and the GT3 RS. the GT3 is less hardcore so it's not a real GT3 like the RS.......

in this market, a 40k car with only dual airbags and no climate control air, no audio system, super stiff ride and minimal features are hard to sell. just look at what you get from a Golf GTI instead.

In Europe, you can buy a stipped down version of FN2R (it's called Civic Type R Spec S) which weights less than a FD2R by around 40kg. but guess what? no one buys them while most ppl buy the top of the range cars with navi etc. it is just a reality that the market has moved on.

i think if Honda Aus ever brings in the FD2R, they should initially imports a limited batch and see if there is more demand.

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The FN2R is a real Type-R... I've come to that realisation now, and there is no point in arguing the fact.

However, this doesn't change the fact that the car is a POS. IMHO.

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just because FN2R is slower than FD2R then it's a POS?

if that's the case all older type r except NSXRs are POS too.

you might as well just say non JDM type R are POS. i think this is what you really mean??!!

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i think if Honda Aus ever brings in the FD2R, they should initially imports a limited batch and see if there is more demand.

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I reckon they should bring a few in as showroom or test drive cars and ship ordered cars in as required. That way, Honda Aus' overheads won't be as high.

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just because FN2R is slower than FD2R then it's a POS?

if that's the case all older type r except NSXRs are POS too.

you might as well just say non JDM type R are POS. i think this is what you really mean??!!

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All i can say is, if only things were so simple...
I drove the nugget on the weekend, and it couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. A performance car this thing isn't.

Oh, and the ride isn't as bad as the press reckon. Great.