Civic Type R $39,990 + On Roads

just in case anyone wanted to know the drive away price its $43920

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Originally Posted by krazibone

This is the quote i am talking about mate. Cars not even out in Sydney and you know all about it already? How do you know it rides harshly? How do you know its slower then most of competitors? The civic is the direct competitor of the GTI and from some UK mags i recall the Civic has out performed the GTI.

With the weight comparison UK has two versions Non-GT and GT while Australia has one, you might want to double check what version it is in the UK.

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ctr will be in the sydney dealership tommorow or wednesday in sydney latest is this week

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Originally Posted by krazibone

This is the quote i am talking about mate. Cars not even out in Sydney and you know all about it already? How do you know it rides harshly? How do you know its slower then most of competitors? The civic is the direct competitor of the GTI and from some UK mags i recall the Civic has out performed the GTI.

With the weight comparison UK has two versions Non-GT and GT while Australia has one, you might want to double check what version it is in the UK.

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Are you implying that it's faster,rides better and is more truculent than a gti, 3 mps, vxr, megane 225 etc?

Aside from ride quality, these are not subjective elements, you don't need to drive the car to know it'll be slower and less driveable. One look at the mass, torque and power outputs and you can see where it's all headed, and it ain't in the civic's direction.

For the sake of discussion, the car's ride quality has been consitantly pilloried by both the australian and international press, not that I care much about ride quality.

I'd love to be proven wrong, because I'd buy the car if i was... Unfortunately, I just don't see this being the case.

ahahhha does anyone remember the mugen dc5 at the sydney autosalon...
the only thing mugen it has was a body kit and mags ahahh

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Originally Posted by fasthonda

There will be an online forum on Thursday JULY 5th,7:30 P:M,that will give people the opportunity to ask the experts questions about the Civic Type R.
All you need to do is to register.

http://www.hondaexperts.com.au/

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:thumbsup: This is a great opportunity to get a viewpoint on some of the issues mentioned straight from the horse's mouth!.

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Originally Posted by Tofu

lol before this comment, I actually thought you had some credibility as a Honda sales person...

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i drove one for ages it was nothing special, very poor seats, only 4 airbags, shocking turning circle, poor visablility. The UK CTR is a massive step forward.

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Originally Posted by BlitZ

ahahhha does anyone remember the mugen dc5 at the sydney autosalon...
the only thing mugen it has was a body kit and mags ahahh

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this is the civic type R thread not the DC5 thread...

i think if you add up the amount of enthusiasts of the old type R to the whole market segment right now its immaterial to honda australia at the end of the day, people can whinge about its performance and styling all day, but at the end of the day the car is going to sell based on the badge and this gives honda some credit that they have lacked sinced the type R badge was taken off the market here. All i can say is at least honda did something about it and bought in something that nothing!

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Originally Posted by xtercii

hahaha you make me laugh buddy, you are a Honda salesman and of course anything released from Honda you will say it's FANTASTIC!! especially this ctr is the first new Honda performance model in quite a while, you would do anything to put gold on it. The only time a car salesman would say anything bad about their own model is when they are trying to push the sale of another.

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wrong, i give my honest opinion all the time, as i said, ive driven lots of the competition i love the CTR, but at the end id prob like to own a GTI. I had a holden gen 3 for the first 2 years i worked for honda, i loved that car so much but i could give u a list of things that were poor and i didnt like.
I had a type S, i didnt love it, i loved my m6 euro better.
If u have anything else to say feel free to PM me:)

has anyone read the Motor Magazine where civic type r was reviewed? If I remember correctly it did 7.2 seconds. I believe this is not due to the crap driver or weather since they also tested rs4 on another edition and pretty much was able to get the claimed 4.8 secs.

the civic did 6.6 with big tail wind pushing it lol or maybe the stig drove it like mad

Top gear says civic type r is the best hot hatch. Fair enough, but it is the best on the TRACK, where you dont care about anything but fastest time. But do you own a hot hatch for sheer tracking? If yes then the typeR is the best. But if one includes other factors such as daily driving, fuel consumption, comfort, and other things outside of track, I can see why one picks up a GTI+DSG over the CTR. Turbo, easily do 6.6s 0-100, huge potential of extra power from mods, better FC than CTR, german quality. The only drawback is almost one in 10 golfs you spot is GTI, and it only goes to 7000rpm.

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Originally Posted by xtercii

hahaha you make me laugh buddy, you are a Honda salesman and of course anything released from Honda you will say it's FANTASTIC!! especially this ctr is the first new Honda performance model in quite a while, you would do anything to put gold on it. The only time a car salesman would say anything bad about their own model is when they are trying to push the sale of another.

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His opinion is as worthy as yours - that is how ozhonda works. At least he has driven the car.

There is a good hot hatch review here including the Civic Type R - doesn't do so good here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1CbK94fBfe0

The person who refers to the euro makes a good point. Certainly if you are looking for a car to modify the euro is a very good base if you want a Honda. And with some Ecu tweaks there is some huge gains to be made. The suspension set up stock is quite soft - but with some modifications can be made razor sharp. And wishbone/multi link is a better setup than what is on the rear of the CTR. How easily the CTR can be modified remains to be seen.