Civic Type R is coming!

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19-03-2007, 08:46 AM
denot

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Originally Posted by Spicey

Dont forget one is a Honda and one is a VW, nuff said!

I'm starting to wonder why GTI are sold with such a "low price" for a VW... anyway, it would be better to compare the CTR with ITR rather than to GTI i think... :p
19-03-2007, 09:13 AM
UNLS1

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Originally Posted by krazibone

Didn't like it at first but the look of the car will start to grow on you after a while and i would have to agree with most that black does look the best but apparently red in real life looks pretty good as well compared to the pictures.

I've been camping the english civic type r forums (civictype-r.co.uk) and everyone whose just got their car are loving it. All reviews from leading magazines such as what car?, auto express, top gear and autocar have given the car a very decent rating except Evo. It looks like they considered build and handling in most of the tests because the type r came last out of the 4 cars tested ( MPS, Gti, Cupra and type-r) when it came to lap times and 0 - 100 kph.

Also cost wise.. UNLS1 if you are a dealer do you know how much these things are going for? as i'm abit confused at the moment since its about 18600 in the UK for a GT and converting that to AUS its about 45-46k which is almost equivalent to a Golf Gti with DSG.

we still havnt been told of the cost yet but i have a fair idea. Also the stocks will be very limited, i know how many we are getting from june till dec and its not much at all!
19-03-2007, 11:59 AM
xtercii

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Originally Posted by NightRyder

I don't think we're comparing "apples with apples" here.

1. This CTR is an NA vehicle, whereas the Golf GTI is a turbo vehicle
2. Price range, yes both might be in the same price range (if you are basing it on Golf Gti base model) but if you wanted extras for the Golf, you would have to pay more and the prices you may pay for some of these extras for the Golf I find ridiculous!...
The CTR (from what I've read) comes with most features and if price is around 38-43K, that's all you have to pay!
3. The CTR is a 2dr hatch/coupe, Golf Gti is a 4/5dr hatch

Hence, two different cars... :cool:

CTR and Golf GTI are not a direct comparison? They are both front wheel drive sports hatch, priced very closely, targeting the same group of buyers. CTR is not a coupe, and GTI now comes in 2 door. If you think they shouldn't be compared because of their engines, then I guess comparing Holden SS to Ford XR6 turbo would be comparing oranges to apples too.
19-03-2007, 12:14 PM
denot

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Originally Posted by xtercii

CTR and Golf GTI are not a direct comparison? They are both front wheel drive sports hatch, priced very closely, targeting the same group of buyers. CTR is not a coupe, and GTI now comes in 2 door. If you think they shouldn't be compared because of their engines, then I guess comparing Holden SS to Ford XR6 turbo would be comparing oranges to apples too.

Then MPS vs GTI will be the same with CTR vs GTI?
19-03-2007, 01:03 PM
MKI4EVA

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Originally Posted by Spicey

Dont forget one is a Honda and one is a VW, nuff said!

ABBAhahhaa good to see some humour on this site.

For those not in the know.......the MKV GTI does come in 2-door platform as of nov/06.

A one off special order of grey. As you can see ACT plates mounted.

http://27772.smugmug.com/photos/136548876-L.jpg

and if you think the CTR should not be compared to the GTI please let me know what smacky E's your popping cause i'd like some as well for the next rave.
19-03-2007, 01:13 PM
industrie

the CTR was spedifically bought in by honda australia to compete in that segment which includes the GTI, MPS, FOCUS, and every other hatch on the market...
19-03-2007, 01:22 PM
sendok

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Originally Posted by industrie

the CTR was spedifically bought in by honda australia to compete in that segment which includes the GTI, MPS, FOCUS, and every other hatch on the market...

for those 4 options: i love CTR(1st), MPS(2nd) :D
19-03-2007, 01:27 PM
Spicey

Ok, ill say it again! One is a Honda and one is a VW! its like comparing a 350Z to a S2000, CBR to a GSXR, Civic to a Pulsar!

You cant compare a Honda to anything, I thought all you guys would know that! ;)

(said like a typical one eyed Honda fan)

CTR FTW!

:thumbsup:
19-03-2007, 01:29 PM
Spicey

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Originally Posted by sendok

for those 4 options: i love CTR(1st), MPS(2nd) :D

XR5 Focuses are pretty good though, my best mate has one.

My order would be CTR, XR5, GTi then MPS
19-03-2007, 01:34 PM
denot

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Originally Posted by Spicey

XR5 Focuses are pretty good though, my best mate has one.

My order would be CTR, XR5, GTi then MPS

Havent actually test drive any of them... so no preference here....
19-03-2007, 01:45 PM
krazibone

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Originally Posted by Spicey

Ok, ill say it again! One is a Honda and one is a VW! its like comparing a 350Z to a S2000, CBR to a GSXR, Civic to a Pulsar!

You cant compare a Honda to anything, I thought all you guys would know that! ;)

(said like a typical one eyed Honda fan)

CTR FTW!

:thumbsup:

Yes but the CTR and Gti are direct competitors of each other. Meaning comparing cost, performance, and features if they were at the same cost the Golf would be favoured. Only loyal honda customers would pay a price like that and the others would shift to the golf due to value for money and a tad better performance and convenience.

If UNLS1 is speaking the truth about limited stock then i better go check out a local dealer. Anyone know a good honda dealer in the sydney area? I live around the Ashfield area so any where around there would be great....
19-03-2007, 01:59 PM
denot

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Originally Posted by krazibone

Yes but the CTR and Gti are direct competitors of each other. Meaning comparing cost, performance, and features if they were at the same cost the Golf would be favoured. Only loyal honda customers would pay a price like that and the others would shift to the golf due to value for money and a tad better performance and convenience.

If UNLS1 is speaking the truth about limited stock then i better go check out a local dealer. Anyone know a good honda dealer in the sydney area? I live around the Ashfield area so any where around there would be great....

Like i sed... we havent test drive both of the car, we cant judge which one give better performance and better features... Cant judge them by looking @ the price and statistic... must drive them yourself to find which one better... ^_^

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