Accord Euro - Motor Magazine rant

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Originally Posted by 7th Gen

for the record guys, reviews of the euro:
WHEELS Nov 03 - 4 way comparo with Mazda 6, Liberty and Vectra (Liberty wins btw)

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actually, with the Dunlop 2050M tires, the Euro Wins (as stated in Feb04 COTY edition of Wheels)

the liberty wasn't a clear cut winner, it was just the choice as a drivers car. don't get me wrong- subaru liberty's are great cars. my mum has one- its really good to drive, despite the lack of power (RX 2.5 115kw). grip is awesome. i'd have the euro over a 2.5 liberty anyday tho

however, i've driven the new 180kw 3.0R Liberty- its excellent. loads of power on tap, traction is phenominal, and a 13(!) speaker mcintosh stereo however the steering is too light and lacks feel. i also sat in a 3.0R-B, and the gearshift is half as nice as the euro- the throws are a mile apart, and it feels like it 'grinds' into every slot...

thanks aarong for the scan! a very pleasing review:) i wonder if it gains another half star with the new Dunlop 2050M tires :P

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Originally Posted by 7th Gen

for the record guys, reviews of the euro:

MOTOR Sept 03 - 2 pager
WHEELS Aug 03 - as per aaronng's scan
WHEELS Nov 03 - 4 way comparo with Mazda 6, Liberty and Vectra (Liberty wins btw)
WHEELS Feb 04 - COTY as per my other post

i am thinking if i had a scanner i would be very popular right now :D :D :D

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Cool, I've got all except the COTY... the 4 way is more informative, because the Aug03 one was when the Euro just started selling in numbers.

sure, different tyres will make a change to the vehicle dynamics. assuming you are good enough to be able to tell it of course

at the end of the day, it's the reviewers opinion. if you are biased towards a particular brand e.g. hondas, subarus etc then no matter what the review says, if you feel strongly enough and your mind/heart is set on it, then you'll go get it. and i suppose you live with it. and let people give whatever opinion they want. but as long as you're happy that's what counts

unless you're a punk on L plates who complains they don't have enough power and gets paid out by everyone for being ungrateful j/k :D

anyway yeh. i think the subes are good, the AWD would be esp. good in this weeks' weather if you happen to live in syd! i have been fortunate enough to take a 2.5 heritage (and auto as well, mind you) around bathurst at legal speeds. i thought the power delivery was awesome, really good torque available at low revs.....no understeer or anything, fantastic dynamically

I think I still have the COTY.. have to look it up on the stack though :D

I think the Euro suffered in the reviews because of the Michelin tyres on them at the time.

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Originally Posted by euro77

I think I still have the COTY.. have to look it up on the stack though :D

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Cool, if it is possible, could you scan or snap a photo of the page that the Euro is on?

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Originally Posted by coladuna

I think the Euro suffered in the reviews because of the Michelin tyres on them at the time.

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Hmm, these Dunlops we have are also the cheapest Dunlop for OEM.... My gf's Astra CD also came with the same series of Dunlop, the Sp Sport 2000's. If it fits an Astra CD, then it's not really a sporty tyre. So when we change tyres, it can probably only get better. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Hmm, these Dunlops we have are also the cheapest Dunlop for OEM.... My gf's Astra CD also came with the same series of Dunlop, the Sp Sport 2000's. If it fits an Astra CD, then it's not really a sporty tyre. So when we change tyres, it can probably only get better. :thumbsup:

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The Dunlops are way better than your post suggests and according to Wheels better than the Michelins.

Don't expect any magic when you change your tyres.

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Originally Posted by evolution42

i also sat in a 3.0R-B, and the gearshift is half as nice as the euro- the throws are a mile apart, and it feels like it 'grinds' into every slot...

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I beleive it is the same shifter as the STI. The 04 STI I have driven has the shittiest gearbox of any car I have driven. It is so mechanical, notchy and rough it is ridiculous in daily driving.

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Originally Posted by yfin

The Dunlops are way better than your post suggests and according to Wheels better than the Michelins.

Don't expect any magic when you change your tyres.

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Ohh, yes, I agree that the Dunlops 2050m on the Euro are better than the Michelins, but I am quite sure that performance-wise, that an upgrade on the tyres to one of a performance-orientated series (other brands, not Dunlop) will give the Euro a boost in cornering speed.