Haywards itb on k24 eg. Will it fit under the hood???

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Originally Posted by FLICK

Well good question, i havent really figured that answer out for myself yet. This is pretty much what i have in mind. I wanna build it now for drags. I wanna try and get as much power as i can out if this engine.

My goal is 11sec's, maybe faster but i know its gonna hurt my bank balance if im thinking of 10's. I know its not easy, i've heard and heard. I dont want turbo, im sick of turbos all my mates had turbos and im over it. After im done with drags and ive reach my goal. Im gonna stick all the roll cages in and necessary track accessories and setup and tune the thing for the track.

People say you cant do both its either drag or track, But im gonna try. I hope to finish this car in 6months from now. And then the testing will begin. But right now im new to this and im doing my research so that i get this right for i what i want.

Its good to hear from other people what they think and recommend.

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Been there, done that. Its impossible to set up a car for the track and the drags and compete in both at the car's full potential. What works for circuit will not work for the strip. Its always a compromise so you never really achive what you theoretically could if you set the car up correctly for one or the other.

My advice, choose one or the other and build the car for that purpose. You won't end up doing things twice (to suit both conditions) and will spend less money (not getting 2 sets of things).

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Originally Posted by barefootbonzai

If you got money to spend, try to get your hands onto a IPS intake manifold.

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If the Chinese art of copying wasnt so rife like it is in the us, this wouldnt be such a problem, but that just isnt the case which is a shame for the K series people with ips knowing where every manifold goes should a copied product turn up, saying that, they arnt as good as a proper itb set-up though.

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Originally Posted by honda_b_blastn

:thumbsup::thumbsup: The hardest part to get your hands on..

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hard because they never deliver the part and run with your money ! haha

feel sorry for some ppl, one guy waited 4 years and still has nothing to show for it

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Originally Posted by FLICK

Sounds Deer. How much roughly?

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Since IPS is almost impossible to get a hold off. Try the local JDMYard Superman Intake! -> http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=78821

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Originally Posted by Slaz

saying that, they arnt as good as a proper itb set-up though.

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you got proof of this? Many of the US guys say the total opposite.

*Sigh*:confused::confused::confused:

On the bigger set-ups Duy, yes i have seen a few back to back dyno results but they wernt online, alot of the IPS back to backs were done compared to smallish itbs hanging out the front of bonnets with dyno fan on, no airbox ect, and most of them were TWM's which are the worst of them, but the cheapest so thats why they are used.

Its abit like now everyone in the K world is singing and posting the praises of the new kinsler itbs, and saying how fantasic they are and how they got 20 more horse power from there 50-54 jenvey/twm itbs against there 62mm kinslers, its not rocket science there top end is looking the goods.

The proof is in the pudding in Motorsport, itb's are fitted to everything at the extreme of N/A performance, alot of people just wouldnt have a clue on correct sizing both in diameter, length, and trumpet used, addressing its feed/intake also as discussed here, something most people that fit them think isnt required to get the most of them, hence there results against such products.

any pics of this IPS intake manifold?

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Originally Posted by delsol9000rpms

any pics of this IPS intake manifold?

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Similar design to mine , We started to post pics on k20a.org back in 2004. And these days they look all like that .


http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/...Article-03.jpg

On Loan Nguyen 10 sec EG
10.56sec@130.8 mph to be exact.

http://www.k20a.org/uploadnew/loansbay.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5.../moroso009.jpg

race proven!

extreme of N/A performance on a honda right there...

What's that hanging at the bottom of the car?

Its a velocity stack or bellmouth used to feed the throttle body, and yeah for a given appliction and what i said was a problem for forward facing itbs, the ips manifold has been designed like an itb set-up like i also said earlier, longer runners, with bellmouths, an airbox fed from an inlet pipe with the air being channeled after a 90 degree turn with a throttle plate that controls flow, it is a good thing dont get me wrong, but its made with a multi purpose/engine application and they have done their homework to suit the K, but................it still wont out do a properly sorted itb set-up, and with it, you'll get your midrange and response, not really required in drag racing though is it?????????????