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Originally Posted by power_of_dreams
be realistic, who has a 430 motor in there civic.
if it was like that on this forum, then people who start throwing RB26 up, and saying with enough work it could fit in a civic.
i think the for sale section is okai the way it is now. i wouldve deleted it aswell. ferrari
that is the whole jist of my argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by hisoka
what do you deem as realistic?
I sound like I am droning on and on, reapeating myself over and over again..
Who has a 1.25 thread on their honda gearstick?
Are we going to cater for every individual and his potentially crazy modifications?
exactly , we cant cater for every individual and his potentially crazy modifications~
so just better to leave a good thing alone, and keep selling honda parts only
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Originally Posted by power_of_dreams
honestly, if you're so concerned re: inequality in the FS section, find another site.
I can see the nature of your beef and conclude that it is petty and moves away from why this site exists.
You must think you're so clever proving your point, but the reality is that most of us are looking on and realising how this site is becoming an absolute sh*thole because of people like you who just want to argue about the rules all the time.
If you dont like the way this forum runs, next time instead of having a cry, you should go and join another one, and never return.
Good day to you
My thoughts seem to have jumped out of my head and posted themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
Firstly, I'm not having a cry. I brought this up to improve the forum, and make this a better place for us. Stop flaming and contribute constructively. This site is not becoming an absolute shithole because people like me are complaining, it's becoming an absolute shithole because of a combination of people bending and/or breaking poorly defined rules and average moderating.
The terms and conditions of posting in the FS section state:
" No selling of unrelated equipment. Ozhonda moderators/administrators deem the right to remove any items found to be unrelated at their discretion. "
Firstly, I want to ask the mods if they beleive selling a Toyota knob on this forum is related. If they answer yes, why would I hypothetically not be able to sell my tubi exhaust (ignoring the fact that I actually don't have one).
Q_ball, if I was genuinely selling a mazda knob would you have closed my thread?
This is not my only issue with this forum.
It always seems there is one rule for one person, and another rule for another person. Double standards are everywhere.
Moderators keep going on about no signature advertising, and having to earn a rep point before you can sell in an attempt to prevent individuals from coming onto the forum and exploiting it.
Meanwhile we have professional businesses who are not traders coming in, not paying a cent to use this forum, and making a ****ing killing out of it.
Like i have said before, that toyota knob thread simply slipped through the gaps.
If i had seen it earlier, i wouldve deleted it.
Anything that is NOT a honda part, or is NOT designed for a honda, will be deleted.
Please refer to the extract of the T/C which you have quoted yourself;
Note the bolded section of that statement, ANYTHING that is not from a honda, or for a honda, is subject to moderator discretion.Quote:
Ozhonda moderators/administrators deem the right to remove any items found to be unrelated at their discretion.
This includes your wheels, gear knobs... basically anything that COULD be interchangeable.
Wheels would probably be the only item where we would give it some extra thought, anything else will be simply removed.
Does that make sense?
you seem to be forgetting a few things:Quote:
Originally Posted by power_of_dreams
1. The moderators are not paid. They give their time for free in an attempt to ensure that this site runs as smoothly as possible. Like you and I they are not perfect and make mistakes.
How about instead of complaining about what you perceive to the their failings, you harden up and worry about real issues - ie those that exist in the real world, and focus on the fact that for the most part, this is a great site that provides a lot of useful information.
2. Like it or not, the moderators have discretion. I disagree with some of the calls they make and evidently so do you. However the difference is that I just get on with my life. If I was that desperate to sell something I'd put an ad somewhere like carsales.com.au or tradingpost.com.au.
3. Selling is not the point of the forum. That we can sell here is bit a minor benefit, a very very very late second to the primary objective of gathering information and providing a network for honda enthusiasts.
4. There will always be people that try to bend the rules, to exploit and to gain unjust advantage. Its similar to someone making a mistake when driving. You could follow them and try to 'teach them a lesson', just like you're trying to do here, or you could get over it, and keep on driving.
Why dont you turn your efforts to making a positive contribution to the forum, instead of nit picking. You arent god, you arent a moderator, and nobody here is accountable to you.
1. They are not paid, but if they are not doing a good job, they shouldn't be doing it. Yes they make mistakes, that's fine. Again this thread is to highlight these issues.
Yes this is a useful site, but it's not the greatest. Discussing issues like these help to improve the forum. If we just brushed everything to the side, we would get nowhere. You may be satisfied with how this site is working at the moment, but I see room for improvement.
2. Again, this is not about me being desperate to sell anything. I have nothing of interest to the people of OzHonda that is for sale.
3. Selling is not the point of the forum, you are correct there, however it is part of the forum. It is here to benefit the members, and if it can be improved, why shouldn't it? Whether this is in the form of clearer guidelines etc etc.
4. When people bend or exploit the rules, they are not doing it by mistake. I accept everyone makes mistakes, but are you trying to say the guy selling the toyota knob made a mistake and thought it was a Honda knob?
I'm not sure if you understand, but this post and this whole thread is an effort to make a positive contribution to the forum. Call it nit picking, call it anal, call it whatever you want, but if you're not going to enforce clearly defined rules, why bother having rules at all?
I'm not god, I'm not a moderator, and I'm not asking anybody to be accountable for me. I just want to see how I can make this forum better.
That is fine. Perhaps you can update the terms and conditions to clarify "ANYTHING that is not from a honda, or for a honda, is subject to moderator discretion."Quote:
Originally Posted by Q_ball
Whilst on the topic of improving the forum, how do you feel about businesses, who are not traders, coming to the site and making money from forumites?
holy shit you have to be kidding? get a ****ing life. Everyone was thinking it, i said it, deal with it :)
Yeah thanks for your input buddy.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnprocter
For the fourth time, I have no hard feelings the thread was closed.
It was to prove a point.
When nobody brings anything to the attention of those in change, things just get worse and worse.
If I didn't bring it up, people go around seeing this guy sold a toyota knob on the forum and it becomes precedence. Before you know it somebody is actually selling a f430 tubi for real.
I'm getting shot down for trying to help the forum, typical OzHonda style.