Semi auto euro is faster. ;) (experimenting)

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Originally Posted by yfin

Dude - still a weird post ! :D You are comparing the speed of MT and AT based on throttle position? - ie 25% throttle would mean this result, etc, etc. You are freaking me out and probably confusing Faiz! The last thing we need is Faiz thinking his AT is faster than the 6MT. :D

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Hehe!

1st gear is so short on the manual to get you up and driving on VTEC really easy where all the engines power is, so 2nd gear and so forth are on VTEC when you sink the boot in.

Hey Faiz,
I don't know how or where you think that auto is quicker than manual in "normal" driving. What are the conditions for the basis of your assumption? Wouldn't they be both the same since you are driving normally? My idea if normal driving is going to 4K - 5K rpm in first and second than change to 3rd at which point I slow back down to 60.

Muhahahhaha...

Yess we don't want to confuse Faiz....

1st gear is short in the manual because its six speed... I don't have a prb having it short it reaches 7000rpm pretty quickly then the fun starts all over again in second gear....

Auto may seem faster taking off a traffic light but give it a bit of a stick and the auto will lag over a manual.....

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Originally Posted by yfin

Dude - still a weird post ! :D You are comparing the speed of MT and AT based on throttle position? - ie 25% throttle would mean this result, etc, etc. You are freaking me out and probably confusing Faiz! The last thing we need is Faiz thinking his AT is faster than the 6MT. :D

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Heheh... because when normally driving, I don't usually depress the throttle above half, because I get higher fuel consumption, the passengers get pushed into the seats and then you shift into 2nd they lurch forward a bit when you press the clutch, they ask are all MT cars like this (having never sat in MT) and all those other issues. I shift at 3000rpm in 1st. Of course when I am just with my gf, I shift at 4000rpm. When I am alone, 7000rpm ;)

i am confused.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

The passengers get pushed into the seats and then you shift into 2nd they lurch forward a bit when you press the clutch, they ask are all MT cars like this (having never sat in MT) and all those other issues. I shift at 3000rpm in 1st. Of course when I am just with my gf, I shift at 4000rpm. When I am alone, 7000rpm ;)

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That's because you haven't mastered the art of shifting a manual smoothly :wave: :D ;) Heeheeheehee.....

lol... shifting from 4th to 2nd smoothly is always an impressive stunt imo :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by aaronng

the passengers get pushed into the seats and then you shift into 2nd they lurch forward a bit when you press the clutch, they ask are all MT cars like this (having never sat in MT) and all those other issues.

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All maual cars you lurch forward a bit whether it be more or less depends on your driving :D especially when you gunning it through the rev range

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Originally Posted by EuroAccord13

That's because you haven't mastered the art of shifting a manual smoothly :wave: :D ;) Heeheeheehee.....

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Ok, here's what I do: Rev up to 4000rpm in 1st, as soon as I release the gas and press the clutch, the passengers get thrown forward because of the decrease in acceleration once the clutch is disengaged. Note that I haven't even begun to shift into 2nd yet. Is there a secret technique to overcome this? :confused: As far as I know, this is a characteristic of manual tranmission cars since they do not have a torque convertor.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Ok, here's what I do: Rev up to 4000rpm in 1st, as soon as I release the gas and press the clutch, the passengers get thrown forward because of the decrease in acceleration once the clutch is disengaged. Note that I haven't even begun to shift into 2nd yet. Is there a secret technique to overcome this? :confused: As far as I know, this is a characteristic of manual tranmission cars since they do not have a torque convertor.

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Just practice man. Be smoother on the throttle and clutch. Easy clutch take ups mean smooth gear changes. It sounds like you are too harsh on the clutch.

I find 1st gear is really touchy when driving sedately though, because of the instant responce of the drive by wire throttle. The other gears I find are smoother due to momentum and they have some weight to pull.

Practice at lower rpm's (~2500rpm) changing smoothly. It will make it heaps easy because of the lack of response at low rpm's.

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

Just practice man. Be smoother on the throttle and clutch. Easy clutch take ups mean smooth gear changes. It sounds like you are too harsh on the clutch.

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Got nothing to do with being too harsh on the clutch.
Depressing clutch gently or hard doesn't make any difference.
It's inevitable for your passengers to get thrown forward a bit because when you release the throttle, you don't have any acceleration until you change into second gear.

Obviously, this will be the worst in 1st gear as the acceleration is very rapid compared to other gears.

No matter how many times you practice, it'll always happen unless you let go of the throttle very very slowly, which is a stupid thing to do as well because you rev high to go fast and releasing the throttle slowly will take up too much time.

Funny thing about it all is, when I ask the passenger if they felt urging forward then back into the seat, they seem to not notice it at all, while I can see them going forward and back.

Oh don't forget you'll be riding the clutch if you let it out too slowly, which aint too good for it.

you can have the smoothest changes going hard but i still guarantee you see you passanger move forward slighty..