[QUOTE=ENDLESS]I think improving on the skill is the best thing u can get... everyone can get a good and fast car... but skill... you will own it for life...
AGREE x 100000 :D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
[QUOTE=ENDLESS]I think improving on the skill is the best thing u can get... everyone can get a good and fast car... but skill... you will own it for life...
AGREE x 100000 :D :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
Vincient, just like what i've said to you........ do the mod step by step then you'll know which mod is giving you power and which one does not
anyway, you can test drive my car if you want to, at least mine one is close to standard, so you could know how a 1.8 litre feels like
Last thing, mod do have a price, but skill has no price, it's internal and stay in your brain forever
I was doing the mod step by step.. but the thing is, everything has to be balance, like you won't put the cam shaft in try it and then put cam gear, then try headgasket then try piston. Labour is very expensive...Quote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
if someone love to try it this way.. he must be very rich..
You guys are really funny.. the topic is "To Mod a Civic VTI-R n tune it with Apexi POWER FC any experience?" Obveriously i am aiming with car performance.
Of course everyone can have a nice looking and fast car but not skills. I know u know even my dog knows. :D
Right now my problem is my car performance !!! Not my skills !!! sigh !!
Skills is experiences, got it from practice !! Like not many people can drive faster than me when i am on my way home. Coz i drive it everyday.
The fact is everyone have their own way to enjoy their car,
i like to successfully mod this civic, at the moment i am not trying to acheive anything on QR, 0-400m.. however.. my goal is to make the car look nicer, and make sure it is faster from the mods i did. Can you guys get where i am coming from? I told you before man...
Everyone has different direction to enjoy their car. I am pretty sure this forum is not just talking about racing on track and how to improve skills.
like go for the nice bodykits, music , drag racing, mountain racing, track racing, cruising around, showing off, daily drive, pick up chicks...etc ! ! !
I do agree Chris, Go on track is the saftest place i ever go ! i had a lot of fun on QR.
i love my civic so much, so dun ask me y didn't i get a dc2r at the first place..
yesterday i tested drive my friends stock dcr2 and dcr Vtir already.. i could feel how good 1.8 is.. very nice !! I found that before vtec kicks in they are both pretty much the same, when vtec kicks in the dc2r's rpm goes a lot faster than the vtir.. and dc2r's 3rd is unbeatable.
so...how is stock vtir compare to JD's?
Yeah, i completely agree with you. If you want to improve your skill, you need to practice and practice. Practice make PERFECT, WHO DOESN'T KNOW??? LOL . Let's say the destinatioin is my home, race with me!! See see who can win.
Andthen, i also agree with Chris. Quote: "As for all the mods you have done, that car should be very fast...I believe toda cams are good (I used them too don't forget) and u can notice the difference more on the track too... (mods on the cars) so... u learn what is good and what is not... and who tell u the truth...(because all the tunner will tell you they are the best...so... who do you have to trust? the best way is to test it out)". Yeah, no one know what is wrong and what is right. The best way is to test it out. That's great. ATSEK4 is trying to test it, finding problem, solving problem and share his experience. He did it, I feel proud. He shared his experience to all people in this forum. Great!!! Never do it and never know it. Try your best to do it, most of people in this forum will support you to solve problem. No worry.
you mean stock civic vtir or stock dc2 vtir?Quote:
Originally Posted by ENDLESS
i found that JD's car has a lot better 1st and 2nd gear comparing with the stock dc2 Vtir, yet on 3rd gear the high end of his car is not as good as stock.. i have been driven his car.. his mid range is very strong.. might be better than stock dc2R.. dun know..
he also tested with albert's civic vtir what he got is custom extractor, japs mid to end.. arc air box, cold air induction and uni chip... Albert could just see JD's number plate at 2nd gear, when 3rd gear jd's vtec kicked in, start pulling a lot and even 4th gear. at the end the gap between two cars is around 2.5 car spaces..
I am going to test wtih JD again after i have replace my clutch and flywheel lsd and final gear.. so i will know on which gear my car go faster. This is my way to test it.. of course not on the street, we go somewhere far away in ipswich ! no one on cars no cops nth !
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Originally Posted by ATSEK4
I used to type a whole paragraph to reply, but i just don't wanna post it, don't wanna start any war here.........
Vincient, if you want to know more about how to mod your car, go to Technical, All Motors or Track/Drag Race forum, you'll find out more........... I am not giving any offence here, I know you care about your car so much, and i don't mean to say anything to make you pissed off
what paragraph? what war? its a forum man.. we are here to share our car experience.. if you are disagree plz say it man y war ? we are friends? wtf? :confused: , u will never pissed me off at all...i am always happy to hear anyone's comment.. ring me or talk to me on msn about what u think if you dun wanna piss pepole off. I might learn something man ! I dun think i will get any help from any forum.. because i dun see anyone wants to share their experience. and i dun even think anyone ever had a situation like me that bad luck.. .. i have no mood to drive if i can never solve the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by spoondc2
Fun to talk here man.. i am just wondering if TODA AU ever put a EK4 with similer mods i have on a dyno... different dyno has different numbers, even different tyres, rims.
anyway just say what you feel like to say.. no war here.. again we are here to have fun and get to know more about hondas..
Vicent...you going to change clutch fly wheel presure plate and LSD? what brands are they? also do u know most of the LSD does not come with bearings to hold them in gear box?(u need to get genuine ones)Quote:
Originally Posted by ATSEK4
Also as for JD's car... I am suprised to hear that you say it is faster on 1 &2nd gear compare to stock... but slower than stock after 3rd...because this can never happen... a faster engine is always faster...no matter on what gear.. however you have your opinion...so... I am not here to offend...
As far as the cam tunning... I wish I can help here... but without looking at what has been done internally I don't think their is much I can help... (I guess none of the tech can help unless they see your car)
As for ECU tunning... I think all shops are ok... because they would have some exprience with the B16 with power FC... like Andy's dc2r... that is not bad at all... his dc2r have more power compare to my dc5r, although my engine is still stock and I do not have ECU...
Hi Chris, i bought the excedy clutch and spoon fly wheel, the LSD is taken out from a civic type R EK9.. i will bring it to honda and show them if i need anything else..coz i booked in to install them all in honda.
hey i feel like to let you look at the internal.. but do i need to tune the car again if you have move something? like change the valve clearence?
in my own experience, after i tuned my car in apc with power fc, i found that my car has better 0-100, but slower 0-400... rpm goes really slow on my 3rd.. so i went to tested with the stock dc2vtir, i used to test with him b4 power fc.. it was just full exhaust system. we were pretty much the same on each gear. after i tuned the car with the power fc and got bigger manifold and using pod filter, i found that i couldn't start my car at the same rpm.. it will spin like hell at 5000.. i beat him on first and 2nd about 1 car space between us. but on 3rd he was pulling up so fast and we have 2 car spaces between us after his 4th.
What i can say is.. maybe he improved his shifting skills.. or my car really goes slower.
it is hard to say.. or maybe when i tesed with the stock dc2 vtir he said i didn't pully away till the end of his 3rd.. becoz i could rev higher.. so the end of his 3rd is not the end of my 3rd. Just like i test with JD.. i could hear he shifted but i was still doing with my 3rd.. i could rev up to 8700.. i wonder how cool it is when your eg rev up to 9250.. !
You do know the LSD is not a direct fit/bolt in don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by ATSEK4