Headers/Manifold

[QUOTE=Jccck;3043860]Technically i'd call a waste of money, buying the more expensive header that makes almost no extra gains.. That is the waste.
I'll buy a fake dyno, off ebay.. Sure.. Sounds like a plan.

How do you know i can't afford a 'real' header?
I have $17,000 worth of modification in the engine bay alone, of my CB7.
Bisimoto, Arias, Turbonetics, TiAL, AEM, RC, ESP, etc etc.. Brands such as these are used at every possible opportunity, and these brands are amongst the best in the world. Quality is a MUST in MOST circumstances, but in others.. It doesn't matter.
Do you want to know where i bought my Distributor O-Ring Seal? My Thermostat Rubber Gasket? And my new Vacuum Lines?
EBAY! Ofcourse.



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so why didnt you get ebay stuff for your set up ?
would of done the same thing
would of cost you 4k instaed of your 17 k you spent

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Originally Posted by 90LAN

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Originally Posted by Jccck

Technically i'd call a waste of money, buying the more expensive header that makes almost no extra gains.. That is the waste.
I'll buy a fake dyno, off ebay.. Sure.. Sounds like a plan.

How do you know i can't afford a 'real' header?
I have $17,000 worth of modification in the engine bay alone, of my CB7.
Bisimoto, Arias, Turbonetics, TiAL, AEM, RC, ESP, etc etc.. Brands such as these are used at every possible opportunity, and these brands are amongst the best in the world. Quality is a MUST in MOST circumstances, but in others.. It doesn't matter.
Do you want to know where i bought my Distributor O-Ring Seal? My Thermostat Rubber Gasket? And my new Vacuum Lines?
EBAY! Ofcourse.

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so why didnt you get ebay stuff for your set up ?
would of done the same thing
would of cost you 4k instaed of your 17 k you spent

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Quality is a MUST in MOST circumstances, but in others.. It doesn't matter.

I think that sums up what he was trying to say

IMO it's all about what you want, and how much you're willing to spend to get it. In my case, my EK was a daily driver, and I had no grand plans of getting 150 Kw out of a NA B16 engine, so I was quite happy not spending too much money for some slight gains. I knew I could have spent a lot more, and I would have gotten some more. In a lot of cases, people who spend a lot of $$$ on getting brand name parts would have gotten very similar gains by using lesser known (but almost just as good) parts. The only thing they can't get is the bragging rights with their mates by saying they have Mugen this or that. As an example, $200 cc DC headers, maybe 10 hp gain, $1000 ss brand name headers, 15hp... do you think spending an extra $800 to get 5 hp is good value, I certainly don't.

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Originally Posted by hitoriko

Quality is a MUST in MOST circumstances, but in others.. It doesn't matter.

I think that sums up what he was trying to say

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Exactly.. Your turbo, pistons, valve springs, crank bearings.. All 'need' to be quality.
Your 4-2-1 header on your otherwise standard Honda doesn't matter.

And 90LAN, i know you're mad.
But $4000 wouldn't have got 350kw atw, now would it?

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Originally Posted by Spoon SiRG

Good brands cost more coin because of extensive R & D (Research & Development) done on the product.

Making sure it fits well, materials used, making power for the intended application.

Ex: Toda/ Mugen/ Spoon/ 5zigen/ Fujitsubo/ Hytech/ RMF/ DC Sports


Regarding EBay-Taiwan stuff, put your car on the dyno & find out the before & after result to find out if you spent your money wisely, or just burned it.

I predict the latter; speaking from previous experience.

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Agreed, although I just wanted to point out that a lot of exceptional parts are in fact made in Taiwan, including some of the big-brands that you wouldn't expect.

WOW...i didt think my question would have caused so much fuss LOL

well there are so many different opinions, ive seen all the ebay stuff and im not too sure about it. Ive never had headers as previously my engine had a turbo set up on it sitting in a Del Sol so i had a turbo manifold but after encounetring some dramas ive had to start from scratch with the engine and am looking for good headers for a lil gain yeah and to also have some nice sounds from it.

mybe ill get my new engine back to where i had my old one.

I dont think its fuss as much as it is a discussion.

Non gen Vs Gen is always a heated discussion as both sides believe they are right and both have legitimate arguements. ;)