Is Honda thinking about launching the Euro wagon locally ???

The whole point of the Euro wagon would be to be able to compete with its comprtitors,who all offer a wagon...eg Mazda 6,Hyundai i40,VW Passat,Ford Mondeo,Skoda Octavia...

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Originally Posted by Philip Lee

that's what the FT86 is for. i have given up on Honda.

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Yep! I been following this car extremely closely since the first concept car a few years ago. The only thing that will be a fail is the price Toyota sell it for here. It's meant to be an enthusiast cheap hero car, back to their grass roots. Around $30k would be sweet, too much more and it'll fail.

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

Yep! I been following this car extremely closely since the first concept car a few years ago. The only thing that will be a fail is the price Toyota sell it for here. It's meant to be an enthusiast cheap hero car, back to their grass roots. Around $30k would be sweet, too much more and it'll fail.

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I'm not as worried about pricing as much a performance.... Last thing we want is a coupe MX-5, ie lukewarm sportscar

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Originally Posted by Fredoops

I'm not as worried about pricing as much a performance.... Last thing we want is a coupe MX-5, ie lukewarm sportscar

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the performance is there. Turbo would be perfect, but that's not happening..... Yet.

Honda Australia has to weight up costs of bringing the Euro wagon in VS market share it will potentially take from direct competitors variants. The reason why they ask the customers first in survey form, at the same time as telling their employees they won't, is so that they can keep their cards close to the chest and find out if there is actually a possible market base for them to sell to. When I used to work for Subaru, national management would always tell us 'no' while they were weighing up options so that no misinformantion could be leaked to the masses

and in regards to FT-86. you will most likely find that Subaru will release the turbo version before Toyota, as it was Subaru who had design control over chassis & powertrain development

The Toyota is a lightweight, n/a stripper.

I'd expect the Subaru to be about 250kg heavier, it'll have heated electric seats, sat nav screen. All the luxo stuff, and be turbo.

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Originally Posted by stndrd

and in regards to FT-86. you will most likely find that Subaru will release the turbo version before Toyota, as it was Subaru who had design control over chassis & powertrain development

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I think you'll find there will never be a turbo version.

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Originally Posted by trism

The Toyota is a lightweight, n/a stripper.

I'd expect the Subaru to be about 250kg heavier, it'll have heated electric seats, sat nav screen. All the luxo stuff, and be turbo.

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No turbo, and it's already confirmed Toyota got 2 spec of cars. A shitbox with nothing, and a loaded version.

I just hope they do release the wagon (probably won't have enough market share in Australia). I am tempted by the Hyundai i45. That has so much presence but not sure why Hyundai price it with such a premium now :|

EDIT: Oops I meant the i40! Nice looking wagon just priced above the i45!!!

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Originally Posted by chunsa

I just hope they do release the wagon (probably won't have enough market share in Australia). I am tempted by the Hyundai i45. That has so much presence but not sure why Hyundai price it with such a premium now :|

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Not sure if you're after a sedan or wagon: Hyundai have released the i40 wagon. i45 is only available as sedan in OZ.

I drove an i45 sedan recently. There is something not right about the steering feel. Otherwise, it felt gruntier than the Euro.

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Originally Posted by chunsa

I just hope they do release the wagon (probably won't have enough market share in Australia). I am tempted by the Hyundai i45. That has so much presence but not sure why Hyundai price it with such a premium now :|

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have a look at the Suzuki Kizashi. A decent car right there!