If it goes to court based on judgement that it "appeared to be" from the officer it wont hold up
Ive challenged a few driving charges in the past and won
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If it goes to court based on judgement that it "appeared to be" from the officer it wont hold up
Ive challenged a few driving charges in the past and won
eg5civic - my comment wasn't aimed at you - I haven't read any other post in this thread , just the title ! Sorry if I offended you mate. A good discussion we have here anyways
How do you prove in court that the officer did not have a speed radar reading though?
It just seems they are free to bend the truth to their convenience and you cannot protest it.
Personally I've never had an issue with cops. I've been pulled over/fined but I knew I broke the law and I was nice to the cops, and they've always been nice to me as well.
However reading some of the stories here is a bit unsettling
yeah i replied then went out and got dinner and i was like fuark, i dont think ben aimed that at me haha, sorry had a shitty day, vented a bit lolQuote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
I think what i meant was i dont gripe about the defects, yeah its shit but i know that i can be done for them, and thats my choice to have my car like that, but for them to be a general douche and bait a ticket out of you, whether your in the right or wrong, is just petty.
Well i assume if its dash mounted they'd have the footage. Dunno about hand held. But im sure they'd have a voice recording on file for any pull over, so if you ask to see a speed reading and they cannot show you then they have the evidence themselves that they couldn't provide a reading. On the same hand, that's why i will probably start using my iphones voice recorder to record any dealings with them. You have the same evidence as them, just you have a copy you can refer to,Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
By asking the officer the moment they accuse you about speeding then u ask politely can i please see the reading. If they dont have it and they predict or assume, dont say anything else and accept the ticket and take it to court if your certain they got nothing on u.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
But if u ran over someone or destroyed property etc due to speeding then your ****ed no point contesting the matter in court lollllolol
you dont have to prove anything. HE is the one accusing so he must prove you are in the wrong, if he cannot prove it he has no case. they are free to bend the rules on the ROAD but in court they are not.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
don't get me wrong, i am very respectful to cops, they are not the bad guys. But you never admit yourself in the wrong, its just asking to get ****ed on. Once you admit u are in the wrong they legally have to book you.
Yes a few things i learned doing photography. Its perfectly legal to photograph/film anyone or anything in a public space, with or without consent. Under Australian law, there are no rights to privacy from cameras in public. The only thing one can do is what celebs do, cover your face. Detailed info here.Quote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
Even if you enter private property like Westfields, they can only ask you to leave for filming. They cannot detain you nor force you to show them the camera and delete stuff, that would be coercion.
Also last time police tried to stop someone filming in public this happened:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ifWjpcqjBM
But in a car situation, you probably shouldnt pull out your mobile phone and point it directly at a cops face. That attitude would just piss him off and make a big cluster**** in the end.
1. video taping is meant to be legal last i heard as it is a way of keeping the police in check.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
2. Yehs they can if your on public road.
3. if u are told to get out of the car whilst on public road then i believe u must.
its differentto being in your house.
On another note, once I witnessed someone being arrested by a bunch of cops, and I asked "what did he do?" and a reply from a female cop was "get out of here before we lock you up".
Of course, I just kept walking, but I find this to be abuse on some level, and am I obligated to accept it? I guess what I am asking is could they lock me up had I not left and/or made a few more questions?
nah, your alloowed to watch just as your allowed to film. its the average civilians rights that is designed to help prevent cops from going too far.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
Female cops are usually super aggressive to men to show dominance. Having a vag doesnt exactly scare hard crims.
if you were just standing there watching then there is no problem, but when you start asking questions when your not involved they will tell you to move on, once you have been told to move on then your required to follow the officers orders.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz