good car to learn manual?

i learnt in the instructor car, which was a getz, they are the most painful to drive car, never been in any other car with such a lack of clutch feel. funnily my brother bought one as a shit box (ran it into the ground, pulled it out and did it again) so i learnt in his aswell.

EG would be good but a 20yr old car (unless its a good deal) is gonna have all sorts of stuff wrong, as i found with my 2000$ EG. not really a great starting point, you want something that is somewhat modern.
like a lotus with a K series?

probs going to get flamed by this, but something with a heavy clutch that is not in perfect condition. you will learn exactly how a manual works and all the sh*t that goes on.

i'll support this by saying that i had two friends who both stalled my first dc2r when they tried to drive it. both had driven manuals, one owned a manual. if you want to learn how to drive manual properly, then learning in a car with a featherlight clutch that will allow you to take off at idle rpm is not going to help. learn in something hard, so when you get a car worth driving, it comes naturally and easy to you, rather than the other way around.

i learnt in a car with no powersteering, a nice hard clutch and an indicator that you had to hold to keep on, which made things interesting :P. my next car (the dc2r) had gearbox and clutch issues, which taught me even more about driving a manual properly (which i needed to know to drive this car in particular at all :) )

you don't want something easy while your learning, that's my stance, and that's how i learnt :).

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Originally Posted by pure_na

probs going to get flamed by this, but something with a heavy clutch that is not in perfect condition. you will learn exactly how a manual works and all the sh*t that goes on.

i'll support this by saying that i had two friends who both stalled my first dc2r when they tried to drive it. both had driven manuals, one owned a manual. if you want to learn how to drive manual properly, then learning in a car with a featherlight clutch that will allow you to take off at idle rpm is not going to help. learn in something hard, so when you get a car worth driving, it comes naturally and easy to you, rather than the other way around.

i learnt in a car with no powersteering, a nice hard clutch and an indicator that you had to hold to keep on, which made things interesting :P. my next car (the dc2r) had gearbox and clutch issues, which taught me even more about driving a manual properly (which i needed to know to drive this car in particular at all :) )

you don't want something easy while your learning, that's my stance, and that's how i learnt :).

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I would back that up, but imo a a hard clutch is easier then a light as F*ck clutch, to me feels more natural and better feedback...
best just to get used to both before getting the license. OR who give a F**** just go get your P's and drive whatever you want! you will learn, either the hard or the easy way, doesnt matter same result.
so dont worry about how you do it or how these ppl say to do it.

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probs going to get flamed by this, but something with a heavy clutch that is not in perfect condition. you will learn exactly how a manual works and all the sh*t that goes on.

i'll support this by saying that i had two friends who both stalled my first dc2r when they tried to drive it. both had driven manuals, one owned a manual. if you want to learn how to drive manual properly, then learning in a car with a featherlight clutch that will allow you to take off at idle rpm is not going to help. learn in something hard, so when you get a car worth driving, it comes naturally and easy to you, rather than the other way around.

i learnt in a car with no powersteering, a nice hard clutch and an indicator that you had to hold to keep on, which made things interesting :P. my next car (the dc2r) had gearbox and clutch issues, which taught me even more about driving a manual properly (which i needed to know to drive this car in particular at all :) )

you don't want something easy while your learning, that's my stance, and that's how i learnt :).

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i agree, thanks alot for you point of view, i never really thought of it that way

SOHC EG civic or Integra GSI

But gsi's go for 13k mate. Bit expensive.

? More like 4k

you got NO idea mate. GSis go for 13k+

What country you from mate

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What country you from mate

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just buy the car you want, try to look after it. If you buy a nugget car for a few k and sell it for nothing, you lose money either way. Just learn at your own pace, worst case senario you burn the clutch i guess. Then just replace with a heavy duty, less of a headache than buying a cheap car, reselling it and buying a integra after. If youve got previous driving experience you should have a decent idea about getting around. So adding the addition of a clutch and gears isnt too much to take in.