Yea I know what he's saying as well, I'm just saying that as a seller, if they choose to they can avoid saying such things. I'd like to believe that I'm more genuine in my approaches, but yea I'm very surprised at brand new clutches at 120k km. My dc2r just hit 130k km, clutch still bites perfect. I got a spare clutch ready to go in, but I don't think I need it for at least another 40k+ km. Probably cause I drive like a bitch though don't know how to squeeze my car LOL