converting kw's to kw's at the wheels

I'm not saying they're not good of course they are... But nothing is done 100% to perfection 100% of the time. +-5kw means jack shit in 1/4mile anyway so of course theyr're times will be same/similar...

FYI Lexus are in Guiness book of records for least manufacturing faults in their production line... ANd that's still 107 faults per 100 cars....

i got my VTI-R dyno'd the other day, and i was stoked with the figures..

120KW's atw.. with 17's.. all i have is H22A injectors, 98' spec 4>1's and full exhaust and intake.. that was tuned with a VAFC ( these are the shiz ) i recommend them to anyone.. have sheets to prove it too!!

vafc doesnt do much honestly. you cant increase power substantially just by adjusting AFR. you will need to be able to advance ignition timing to see any real benefits.

you guys need to get your heads out of the ditch because the cars arent making that much power. where are you finding these happy dynos? or are you telling the dyno operator to do the power run in 1st gear?

stock DC2Rs get between 90-100kws bone stock. EVERY car is DIFFERENT (that's right tegstar83) even if they rolled off the production line at around about the same time... the way someone drives a car determines which fuel maps the ecu takes since it is always learning etc so it does affect power. no 2 cars will be the same. close, maybe.. but definitely not the same.

at the end of the day, dyno numbers are just that... numbers. something you can use to show off to your friends and brag about. doesnt mean shit on the track, strip or road.

i know base dc5 produces squat compared to dc5r, but wondering what range of kw atw the base would lie in ??

i believe the base is around about 75fwkw stock

wow what a disapointment 30 kw difference hehe cool ^.^

i got an 8KW gain at the wheels using the VAFC..

i heardin a fwd car that kw at the fly is approx hp at the wheels...so 147kw at the fly - 147hp at the wheels, which = about 109 at the wheels...

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Originally Posted by MrThanh

vafc doesnt do much honestly. you cant increase power substantially just by adjusting AFR. you will need to be able to advance ignition timing to see any real benefits.

you guys need to get your heads out of the ditch because the cars arent making that much power. where are you finding these happy dynos? or are you telling the dyno operator to do the power run in 1st gear?

stock DC2Rs get between 90-100kws bone stock. EVERY car is DIFFERENT (that's right tegstar83) even if they rolled off the production line at around about the same time... the way someone drives a car determines which fuel maps the ecu takes since it is always learning etc so it does affect power. no 2 cars will be the same. close, maybe.. but definitely not the same.

at the end of the day, dyno numbers are just that... numbers. something you can use to show off to your friends and brag about. doesnt mean shit on the track, strip or road.

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Amen:wave:

120 kw atw's in a vtir? Get farkin real!

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Originally Posted by PLYBOY

i got an 8KW gain at the wheels using the VAFC..

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i gained 6-7kw at most just before vtec crossover when i got mine tuned.. throughout the rest of the rev range it was less. so what? didnt feel any quicker, power delivery was *slightly* more smooth.. thats about it.

seems like a lot of you guys *hear* a lot.. how about backing up what you say with some dyno plots? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by MrThanh

vafc doesnt do much honestly. you cant increase power substantially just by adjusting AFR. you will need to be able to advance ignition timing to see any real benefits.

you guys need to get your heads out of the ditch because the cars arent making that much power. where are you finding these happy dynos? or are you telling the dyno operator to do the power run in 1st gear?

stock DC2Rs get between 90-100kws bone stock. EVERY car is DIFFERENT (that's right tegstar83) even if they rolled off the production line at around about the same time... the way someone drives a car determines which fuel maps the ecu takes since it is always learning etc so it does affect power. no 2 cars will be the same. close, maybe.. but definitely not the same.

at the end of the day, dyno numbers are just that... numbers. something you can use to show off to your friends and brag about. doesnt mean shit on the track, strip or road.

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Hit the nail on the head!!!