Thats gotta be so frustrating
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Thats gotta be so frustrating
I know how you feel dude, I had the same issue and my Euro isn't even 6 months old yet :( . I spoke to my dealer about the scratches, the saleslady said she hadn't heard about it, but when I spoke to the dealerships service centre they said that they HAD actually heard about the issue and that there was a service notice sent to them warning of the potential problem. Now if Honda bothered to send out a notice to all their dealers Australia wide then it is obviously an issue and have had many complaints and repairs done already.
My Service Centre told me that the reason why the felt was removed from the inside was to install another component which is meant to stop wind noise, who knows why they didn't put it back in afterwards? Maybe they thaught that they would get less people coming back and complaining about scratched tints than they would have if there was severe wind noise?
At any rate my Euro is going in to the dealer next Monday, they said they are going to have to retint the windows and insert the felt to stop it happening again... while they are there I told them they can fix the door lock rattle/vibration ! Hope this helps?
By the way it doesn't matter what tint you have, or even have tint at all, the lack of felt will cause it to scratch in numerous cases, I have the top quality Ming Tints and it still happened so it is obvious where the issue is, no felt equals scratches.
I haven't got scratches on my windows (I don't have tint yet), but I am well aware of the problem. I asked the dealer about the felt and he said that he had never heard of such nonsence and then wanted $650 for tint.
I don't use the windows at all, and I have told my girly to do the same. I will be getting felt installed when I get the tints, but I am worried about the felt glue smearing on the glass. It gets to about 50deg here, much higher ambient temp too. I was thinking about using 2 part epoxy resin "Arildite" or super glue to stick the felt on.
Oh it is an issue alright, and Honda knows about it too, like I said my service centre told me they had already recieved a notice about it. Don't speak to your salescentre, go straight to the dealer servicecentre, and if they still don't know then get them to ring the Honda dealerships here in Melbourne, they know about it ! I am gonna let them attach the felt that way if there is any glue issues then they are responisible for it not me !Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I have had tint on my car for a bit over a month and I have yet to see any scratch marks. I heard about this problem so I paid extra attention to see if I get any scratch marks but none yet. I didn't like the idea of removing the door panels and stuff to get the felt installed anyway. I got SuperCool SmartFilm on my car and it's very cool inside.
Without the felt there is every chance you will get scratches eventually as it is impossible to keep the windows perfectly clean all the time. You also need to open and close the windows frequently. I learned the hard way with this and I can't believe you didn't push your tinter to install the felt if you knew of the issue before hand!... Hopefully others will listen to my advice of months ago to avoid grief .... "don't even think about tinting a euro unless you are 100% sure they will install felt on the inside of the window. If they say the car doesn't need the felt - go somewhere else." :( It costs nothing to install the felt so why not ask for it ! Anyway - it is your car and good luck with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
The only way to check for the scratches is to look through the window on a sunny day - look for very fine vertical lines in the tint. You will not see the scratches at other times.
I am not sure why you have concerns with the removal of the door panels - a good tint shop will always remove the door panels so the tint goes to the edge of the glass. They probably did this when installing your tint.
my tint got scratched recently aswell. :(
just goes to show that every Euro with tinted window will get their tint scratched eventually.
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Originally Posted by baboo
Ring up your dealer, and do what I did, get them to add the felt and redo the window tints at their expense! I can't believe Honda would be so stupid as to not install the felt on the inside, I mean they have made a quality car, I expect more from Honda than this sort of oversight!
I am told it is not uncommon for car manufacturers to do this. The tinter mentioned a few cars like the Toyota Echo and the new Range Rover have no felt on the inside of the window....Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorn2004
Removing things like that leads to rattles in cars. My tinter didn't remove any panels and did a perfectly fine job. When I asked about whether he removes the panels, he told me that he didn't understand why some tinters remove panels as it requires a lot of work and hence costs more. After having seen his job, I agree with him. He also told me luxury cars like Mercedes also do not have felts inside (can someone confirm this?) and most of them didn't have any problem with scratching.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Coladuna - I hope it works out for you, I really do. I am sure your guy did a great job as well - but I really think you will be seeing him again in the not too distant future to get the felt installed.. A manager at Tint a Car Oakleigh - a large tint dealer in Melbourne told me they eventually had EVERY Euro come back with scratches in the tint. Not some, not a few - EVERY Euro. The guy was pulling his hair out saying this to me in utter frustration..Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
I'd also rather the mere risk of rattles than almost certain scratches on my windows... Go felt baby! :p
Well as long as they get no dirt in their windows then they will probably be fine, but maybe they have some other precautions stopping the scratching from happening instead? It is strange that the US counterpart the TSX doesn't seem to have this scratching problem, why would they decide not to include the felt in the Australian version? I would have thaught that there would have been a greater chance of Australians wanting their cars tinted due to the warmer climate than those in the US?Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin