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15-07-2005, 11:09 PM
EuroAccord13

Thanks Aaron!

I used to have different oils for Summer and Winter use, but I'm getting lazy now.. I just want one oil for all seasons LOL..

After trying out my Current Castrol Formula R, I might go Motul, if my wallet or GF permits......
16-07-2005, 02:06 AM
V205

I noticed mobil1 10w30 is substantially more expensive than mobil1 5w50.

Are they both PAO?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

PAO stands for Polyalphaolefins.

Think of it in this way. With hydrocracked, you take a big molecule of petroleum and you break it down to smaller pieces of the size that you want.

With PAO, they take small molecules from petroleum gas and join them with other molecules to for the desired size oil molecule.

Both are good, just different ways to make them. Of course, with PAO, it is more customisable, so you can get oils such as Mobil 1 with 5W-50 while with hydrocracked, you're seeing more of the 5W-30 type. There is no better oil between PAO and hydrocracked, because it is what the car needs that is best. But with PAO, the oil can have a viscosity that is more stable. The example with Mobil1 5W-50, it is viscous at 100 degrees, but when you go down to 0 degrees, the viscosity doesn't increase as much as other oils.
16-07-2005, 01:33 PM
aaronng

Quote:

Originally Posted by V205

I noticed mobil1 10w30 is substantially more expensive than mobil1 5w50.

Are they both PAO?

I haven't seen Mobil1 10W30 being sold here in Sydney at the usual auto places. As far as I remember from before, full synthetics used to be expensive, until now with Castrol's Formula R 5W-30. So I would hazard a guess that the original full synthetics such as Mobil1, Shell Helix Ultra and the others could be PAO, while the newer cheaper full synthetics such as Formula R 5W-30 is hydrocracked.
16-07-2005, 01:42 PM
aaronng

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroAccord13

Thanks Aaron!

I used to have different oils for Summer and Winter use, but I'm getting lazy now.. I just want one oil for all seasons LOL..

After trying out my Current Castrol Formula R, I might go Motul, if my wallet or GF permits......

Where can I get Motul from? I just bought a bottle of 5W-30 Formula R to try out (was on offer). But after that, I'll give Motul a spin.
16-07-2005, 02:18 PM
EURO-R

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Originally Posted by aaronng

The 5W-30 and 5W-40 is interesting. Where's the cheapest place to buy Motul from in NSW? AutoOne or Autobarn (these are listed on their site)?

i'm not sure where's the cheapest place to buy Motul, i got 4 litres 300V for 75 bucks from Motoquip in Westfield Burwood, they are 2 litres per each, i got some discount from Motoquip.
17-07-2005, 03:48 PM
EuroAccord13

Made a check through a friend, the 300V costs like 20 bucks a litre... does that sound like a right price?

Also the 8100 5W-40 is like 59 bucks for four litres.....
17-07-2005, 06:23 PM
yfin

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Originally Posted by EuroAccord13

Made a check through a friend, the 300V costs like 20 bucks a litre... does that sound like a right price?

Also the 8100 5W-40 is like 59 bucks for four litres.....

Nick - $59 is how much I paid for the 8100 - was at a store in perth similar to autobarn. I think that is full price. Not sure where you can get it cheaper - very few places sell the stuff. The 300V is a step up again - $46.99 for 2 litres.

This link below gives you an idea of the RRP prices of Motul products . I am not suggesting this is where you get it from - just give you an idea of full RRP.

http://www.mercurymotorsport.com.au/products/motul/

Perhaps when you are ready to buy try some of these places in the dealer locator

http://www.motul.com.au/dealer_locator/western_au.html
17-07-2005, 06:30 PM
EuroAccord13

Thanks yfin!

If it's 59 bucks for four litres, did you end up buying 2 bottles of it instead?

THANKS!
17-07-2005, 06:34 PM
yfin

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroAccord13

Thanks yfin!

If it's 59 bucks for four litres, did you end up buying 2 bottles of it instead?

THANKS!

Sorry - I think I made a typo. The 8100 Excess is 5 litres so you only need 1 bottle.

The size of the package makes the 300V very expensive - as you will need more than 4 litres. That said - I am sure it is better than the 8100.
17-07-2005, 06:38 PM
EuroAccord13

Coolness...

the Euro needs like 4.2-4.3 Litres and I was beginning to wonder how I can make do with one bottle LOL...

So I guess the price for the Oil is pretty much the same in Melbourne...

I was told that if I buy more (duh..... :D) it will be cheaper (Works out to about 13 bucks a litre).. But how long will 20Litres last me LOL!
17-07-2005, 07:07 PM
EURO-R

Just wondering if don' t change oil filter, 4 Litres can be enough?
19-07-2005, 01:26 PM
baboo

How come only 4.2 or 4.3 litres?

I normally use about 5 litres ~5.5 litres.

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