Lowering Euro and other suspension mods

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Originally Posted by eurotrash

Definatly not, but im from the school that your not allowed to go more than 60km/h and your not tracking the car.

The Euro has really good handling characteristics via the chassis, its in my opinion (and i stress this 'my opinion') that spending money on parts to improve handling on a daily driven family saloon is a waste of money.


Sounds like its time to buy a Volvo?
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Sounds like im not a ricer :D :D :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

The Euro has really good handling characteristics via the chassis, its in my opinion (and i stress this 'my opinion') that spending money on parts to improve handling on a daily driven family saloon is a waste of money.

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A better handling car is a safer car. Period. Ever needed to do some evasive manoeuvrers at high speed?

Whilst the Euro handling stock is fine - it can be much better with some mods that don't cost that much (thicker sway, strut brace, coilovers) - people spend far more on decent car stereo systems. I don't track my car - but I have comfort knowing my suspension changes means it will react much beter than the stock car.

Eurosp- if you are thinking of lowering your car - look into the Eibach Pro system. Hopefully when released it will be around $1000 and will be much better than just changing springs.

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Originally Posted by yfin

A better handling car is a safer car. Period. Ever needed to do some evasive manoeuvrers at high speed?

Whilst the Euro handling stock is fine - it can be much better with some mods that don't cost that much (thicker sway, strut brace, coilovers) - people spend far more on decent car stereo systems. I don't track my car - but I have comfort knowing my suspension changes means it will react much beter than the stock car.

Eurosp- if you are thinking of lowering your car - look into the Eibach Pro system. Hopefully when released it will be around $1000 and will be much better than just changing springs.

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Thats the thing, stock isint just fine - stock is really good its a very well balanced car. If your worried about road handling, spend the money on tyres which are the final contact point to the road. A good tyre will give you peace of mind.

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

Thats the thing, stock isint just fine - stock is really good its a very well balanced car. If your worried about road handling, spend the money on tyres which are the final contact point to the road. A good tyre will give you peace of mind.

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Ferrarista we need to get you into a Euro with the mods I have mentioned :D You will be a believer! Better than just changing tyres - I am talking about the ability to change direction quicker, more stably and at much higher limits. That is what road handling is about IMO.

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Originally Posted by yfin

Ferrarista we need to get you into a Euro with the mods I have mentioned :D You will be a believer! Better than just changing tyres - I am talking about the ability to change direction quicker, more stably and at much higher limits. That is what road handling is about IMO.

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Only mod im interested in atm is the Euro-R kit and i still cant find what im looking for :D

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Originally Posted by yfin

Ferrarista we need to get you into a Euro with the mods I have mentioned [img]images/smilies/icon_cheesygrin.gif[/img] You will be a believer! Better than just changing tyres - I am talking about the ability to change direction quicker, more stably and at much higher limits. That is what road handling is about IMO.

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i totally agree. my car feels incredibly stable at high speeds compared to stock and i can change direction and take corners with much more confidence evem at higher speed. I use to think the car was more than "fine" stock too but once you've experienced the higher limits that come with suspension + bracing bar mods thats all it is in comparison :cool:

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Originally Posted by Chris_F

i totally agree. my car feels incredibly stable at high speeds compared to stock and i can change direction and take corners with much more confidence evem at higher speed. I use to think the car was more than "fine" stock too but once you've experienced the higher limits that come with suspension + bracing bar mods thats all it is in comparison :cool:

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..and that has alot to do with centre of gravity which lowering would do, ask the great Enzo Ferrari..he pioneered this. Also add a wider tyre and your fine, especially for a 4 cyliner FWD family car.

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

..and that has alot to do with centre of gravity which lowering would do, ask the great Enzo Ferrari..he pioneered this. Also add a wider tyre and your fine, especially for a 4 cyliner FWD family car.

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A thicker rear sway bar has a far greater difference to handlng than lowering the Euro - I know as I did the sway first.

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Originally Posted by yfin

A thicker rear sway bar has a far greater difference to handlng than lowering the Euro - I know as I did the sway first.

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I guess this is just something we have to agree to disagree on :)

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Originally Posted by Ferrarista

I guess this is just something we have to agree to disagree on :)

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Prediction. You will disagree with me right up until the day you install the thicker rear sway bar and strut brace. I guess it depends on how you drive and corner - but you don't know what you are missing. :p When people on this forum rave about mods like the Whiteline rear sway - they are not overstating things - it is fantastic.

Anyway - back to topic - Eurosp what have you decided to do? It has been a month or two since this thread started

If you lower it with spring, it's best to change your shocks too. I have Eibach's with stock shocks, and it's not a good mix imo. Too bouncy, and feels like you've hit a barrier when going speed humps.

Also, wider tyres aren't always the best solution for traction. With all that body roll, and weight shifting all the way to your outside tyres, no tyres of any width will be able to keep your inside tyres on the road. Sway bars help keep your tyres on the road by reducing roll.

It really depends on what you do with your Euro. I actually like to drive over 60km/h....and i like to corner over 60km/h too. Installed a $200 rear swaybar and it was like night and day. $200 isn't a lot to ask....better than $200 on a Euro-R grill :rolleyes:

Edit: Ferrarista, you really have no clue about cars. "Handling characteristics via the chassis??" What's that suppose to mean??

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Originally Posted by Slugoid

If you lower it with spring, it's best to change your shocks too. I have Eibach's with stock shocks, and it's not a good mix imo. Too bouncy, and feels like you've hit a barrier when going speed humps.

Also, wider tyres aren't always the best solution for traction. With all that body roll, and weight shifting all the way to your outside tyres, no tyres of any width will be able to keep your inside tyres on the road. Sway bars help keep your tyres on the road by reducing roll.

It really depends on what you do with your Euro. I actually like to drive over 60km/h....and i like to corner over 60km/h too. Installed a $200 rear swaybar and it was like night and day. $200 isn't a lot to ask....better than $200 on a Euro-R grill :rolleyes:

Edit: Ferrarista, you really have no clue about cars. "Handling characteristics via the chassis??" What's that suppose to mean??

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lol you say i have no clue about the cars and your asking me how a good well balanced chassis can make a difference with handling? If you dont know what that is then i wont argue with it because you wont understand.