yeh just get a datalogging cable, run it from your ecu and go for a drive. look at your "datalog" to see where you are running rich/lean and adjust, then reburn chip, lug in and drive. ect ect. until you got a nice a/f r
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yeh just get a datalogging cable, run it from your ecu and go for a drive. look at your "datalog" to see where you are running rich/lean and adjust, then reburn chip, lug in and drive. ect ect. until you got a nice a/f r
what got me interested in the first place is that fact. And how its cheaper for me to buy a OBD1 P28+Obd2-1 Harness+Chip than an VAFC or simular. WHich is just a hack. Where as this is your actually changing the ecu's map.
So basically these free programs require you to burn a new chip everytime you want to change something? So they aren't real time then?
well afr can be tuned on the street, timing is another thing that need to be tuned.
timing can only be tuned on the dyno, I know ppl can say that they can tune timing on the street. Its been done before but I wouldnt recommend it. Knock sensor and reading spark plugs are showing you what already HAPPENED. This is not the way to tune.
Wyn,Quote:
Originally Posted by wynode
many will claim a dyno is a MUST, but IMO (and its only my personal opinion) its not 100% necessary.
The advantage is that you can see in real time what the gains are etc, u can also create an artificial "condition". Ie accelerating uphills and accelerating down hills are 2 different things. A dyno can replicate those conditions and do it safely without going to silly speeds at times :)
So yes imo a road tune can suffice.
Epren: there are plenty more devices that you use when tuning, u can listen for knock on the street using special headsets etc. For more experienced tuners (again my opinion), you can almost "feel" the engine and how it likes or dislikes something :)
pillow,Quote:
Originally Posted by pillow
if u have certain tools they are real time, and the only burning is to "store" the information to the socketed ecu :)
Now are you stating this as an experiance tuner? Would you say the same thing to someone who is just starting out (ie a novice tuner)?Quote:
Originally Posted by pornstar
I guess what i'm trying to say is that not all of us have access to a dyno and we'd like to get it as best as possible on the street before we can even get access to a dyno.
Wyn, [u know ill get torn for this :( ] but yes as an experienced tuner, thats my opinion. As for the novice/beginner I would say a dyno is the place to be, its much safer, and u have much more time to tune points, cos id assume ud need more time as a newer tuner.
I think if u understand the engine dynamics, the street is perfectly fine, EXCEPT being a newer tuner, ud be far less inclined to try to push the envelope so to speak. IE youd probably not get 100% of what the engine can achieve.
Dam wish you guys where in brissy, bloody nothing up here.
Wyn, i street tuned my car without a tuning background but having done my research into what needed to be done. Happy to say its been nearly 2 years since i first got the car up and running with the freeware and 18 months since its been running boosted using freeware to tune. Its never seen a dyno.Quote:
Originally Posted by wynode
So if you are willing to put in a little time to understand the tuning basics then yes, an inexperienced tuner who has read up on things can street tune their own car
you know the answer to that, go back and read the original thread if you like. Dont bring that sh*t in here and try to stir troubleQuote:
Originally Posted by ProECU
when is ProECU going to be released?
if it is already released, how much will it cost for the hardware?
and does it provide real-time tuning ability?