:?: are you comparing a mod EG5 Si vs a stock civic vti-r?? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
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:?: are you comparing a mod EG5 Si vs a stock civic vti-r?? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
I beg to differ, there is not much possibility of a worked Si taking on a VTi-R. Both are DOHC and the EK4 is equipped with the most important thing, VTEC. This cam of VTEC is way stronger compared to an Si without any form of engine work. You can have an entired stripped interior, a full exhaust (headers + catback) and a high flow filter + whatever tyres. You still would not walk an EK4 on acceleration. The cornering/handling improvement is held out almost entirely by the SS tyres and THAT itself puts the entire statement to question. :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
Wynode edit: Black text only thanks
on a straight drag the eg(worked with those mod listed) will beat the ek vtir (stock)
actually come to fink of it.. i dunt fink it can =)
You contradicting yourself? Unfortunately with no engine work, it's just not happening. The VTEC cam/kick-in will walk the EG with no hesitation. What sorta power increase we're talking about from an EG Si? 10 max 15 bhp? And that's still no where close to the basic power output of the B16A. :roll:
I gotta agree with that. Compare an EG Si to an EF CRX (a fair bit lighter) as both run the same engine. I've seen a stock VTiR totally walk one unmodified - the CRX ran I/H/E. My SiR by virtue of being lighter than a VTiR then walked it as well - stock. A stock B16A is between 30 and 40 bhp ahead of a stock ZC/D series DOHC. I/H/E will NOT make 30bhp - no matter how optimistic you are :) Gut the interior? Who does that on the road? Gut both interiors and I have a feeling it will remain on a par.
ah i dunno,
ive seen an EG beat a EK vtir
dunno wat mods he had in his EG but
EG4sho!!! :wink:
ive been in an EG Si hatch back before and that thing can go....but ive seen EG Si with mod beat a stock VTi-R..
and remember the EGs are quite litter than the EKs...which is why they can be really quick with some mods.
ive seen some EG Si come with sunroof too...
basically ur goina waste ur money with any of the EKs (except for the VTi-R) they are slow and gutless just like wynode said.
I have owned a EG and EK civic and, if u don't really care about power then i would go for an EK Gli. The reason being is that it's a newer car, it would be silly to buy an older car if u just want it as a reliable daily driver. What i mean is if u have $13,000 and u wanted performance then i would say EG and mod the bitch or try find an SiR but for what u want i would say EK.
My friends mum has a manual EK Gli and my mate raced his cousin a few times who has a Ford SR2 Laser and the Civic won every time. So for what they are they are good.
Also the EG i had was a Gli and had beaten my mate several times who had a TX3 with I/H/E, I only had a exhaust cat back. 1.5 vs 1.6.
So they are both not slugish i would just go EK cus like i said earlier its a newer car and i like the shape better.
Cheers,
Matt :D
if i was you i would get the ek with the b16a,,,IMO that guy that loss to the si was a chit driver or sumting,,,but head to head a SIR EG will scrape the floor with a EK VTIR...
Hmm...i alomost started a stir there lol...
sorry if i shocked sum people...maybe i am "jumping the gun " myself.
All i know is - with my current mods - i have had 2 traffic light races and 4 liverpool exhuast drags agains vtirs - 5 /6 i beat all way thru to 3rd - equal at end of 3rd. So , sum hwere modded too , sum were weighed down by stero gear etc. Or just a fat driver.
Well, on paper these 2 cars shoudl be around equal...aroudn same power to weight ratio.
Anyway, get a EG5 Si !
Ben