umm couldnt agree with you anymore !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
ive tried for years dealing with them only to be ignorred and pushed away.
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umm couldnt agree with you anymore !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
ive tried for years dealing with them only to be ignorred and pushed away.
anyone want to buy me a type r before they come extinct :D hehehe
Ok so if AUS Honda are moving towards a more luxury sports car - why did they kill off the Preludes? They were luxury sports car IMO. So now they're like making Integras like that. That really sucks bad. I mean, really, Honda is going down the fricken toilet. The new Civics - look shizen. They have Odysees, CRV's, MDX's etc now... OMFG - most Hondas are now minivans and people movers!!! And has anyone noticed that all Honda's now have increased their centre of gravity - ie) the roof is much higher and the car sits higher off the ground? I dunno, could be wrong but it appears that way to me.
And about the NSX - who is going to pay that much for a Honda? If you were to pay that much, I would get a Merc, BMS, Porsch etc... Ridiculous price for that car. The only sports car Honda has now is the s2000. Unless... if they decide to release that CRX they are thinking about... :D
Well im happy i got my type r before they become extinct.... alot of ppl dont realise what they are missing out on :D
well i agree with people saying honda aus is becoming soft and killing the performance bred cars... its a sad time for honda fans
honda should have stuck with the tegs, ludes, early civics, and the crx's in my opinion, all that is left is the s2000
sad, sad day :(
on the flip side, if aus honda is killing off the type-r. . . doesnt that mean more imported jdm type r??
so its not all that bad rite?? :?
nah new import laws i think will prevent that.. but you could always bring a wrecked one in and strip the parts for your audm model.
I reckon they shoulda discarded the audm type r and just brought the jdm version in as is.. they woulda saved heaps by not having to build that not quite type r they are selling now and sold more as the jdm model is so much better.
yeh, i agree, the laws will prevent u importing the jdm... will have to settle for engine conversions and the like from imported wrecks
but this will prolly lead to the parts being even more expensive now as loval versions wont be as available i should imagine
There was only one real TYPE R INTEGRA ever sold in OZ. > DC2R.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
The currently sold DC5 Integra is actually only a TYPE S RSX with the TYPE R stickers- no more, no less! :P
Even our dc2r isn't a true typeR!
lost: 6kw, really light wheels (15.6lbs Vs 12.3lbs)(thereabouts)
gained: more weight. I have not weighed my car yet, but i suspect its a good 40kg heavier than the 1087kg they weigh in Japan!
Honda keep trying to compete in price with other brands who make cars that are not as good!!!. And to do it they are cutting corners (in AU). They need to wake up and realise that people buy Honda's (in AU) because they are damn great cars (performance, looks, RELIABILITY, quality). Even though they are more expensive than many other cars out there.
We love our Honda's and we don't give a shit if they are a little more expensive than local cars or other Jap cars.
Marketing guys think the extra 5k the DC5R would have cost if it had come with Brembo's, 17in wheels and 162kW would have had a major impact on sales. The goodies would have had more of an impact than the 5k! surely?
Who would buy a 2003 WRX with 168kW and 1390kg when a 162kW 1160kg DC5R costs only about 5k more? Its doing my head in!
Honda, stop wasting money by having multiple production lines for the same car (JDM, USDM, AUDM) and give us the real typeR's and feed the savings back in reduced prices!
I don't want to hear anything about fuel octane. NSX's are not detuned in AU!
:x
Hey 00dc2 I agree about the DC5R, but the aussie DC2R wheels weigh 12.9 lbs and our cars weigh 1087kg's. In fact, our 15" wheels are lighter than their 16" wheels. We lost the 6kw through a restrictive header and slightly different ECU tuning. The AUDM DC2R is very, very close to JDM model.
I think we have to face the fact that Honda want to be more of Mercedes Benz style Luxury Sport company in Australia... which I hate.
also most dc2r's in OZ end up with Aircon due to our weather compared to japan, and that seriously heavy, even if it its a specially made unit for the typeR (is smaller than most other aircons in cars, to keep it lite).......
This whole thing just comes down to $$$$ for Honda, in the end it's a business "How to we stay competitive in the next 5 years, keep profit margins up etc etc"...... If they didnt cut the Prelude, typeR etc etc, but kept bringing in NEW models, such as the Jazz etc etc, they would have had too many models on the market, which is not smart......