how to reduce body roll

thanks for that mate

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Originally Posted by joneblaze

BTW, a front strut brace will do basically NOTHING.

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you wanna back that up?

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Originally Posted by tanghy

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Originally Posted by joneblaze

BTW, a front strut brace will do basically NOTHING.

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you wanna back that up?

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Just going from what I've felt on my car. Purely personal experience. I can't back that up with any physics or theories. :)
I'm not saying a front brace wouldn't do anything as part of a suspension setup, but alone it won't do much at all IMO.

at one stage i had just a front strut brace and i wont argue that it creates more understeer (altho i hadnt taken it too hard toofind out at the time), it did decrease body roll

take out your front strut bar and go one lap on a track HARD.

then put one strut bar on then do another lap HARD.

then see if you can tell the difference

guys, you won't feel the strut bar dragging your car in a straight line at the traffic lights :x

If you use a front strut bar and not a rear strut bar , fair enuff, your front will be stiffer and thus more understeer, but if you use one at thh front and another at the back, there will not be MORE understeer, it will be the same but altogether less roll.

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Originally Posted by SP0017

take out your front strut bar and go one lap on a track HARD.

then put one strut bar on then do another lap HARD.

then see if you can tell the difference

guys, you won't feel the strut bar dragging your car in a straight line at the traffic lights :x

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haha fair enough well one day i hope to do so :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by SP0017

If you use a front strut bar and not a rear strut bar , fair enuff, your front will be stiffer and thus more understeer, but if you use one at thh front and another at the back, there will not be MORE understeer, it will be the same but altogether less roll.

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Point taken Shaun. Thanks for clearing that up. Like I said, when used as part of a package, I'm sure they are useful, but alot people (like I did) simply would fit a front strut alone just because it's the most popular/heard of suspension/handling item.

And I don't just drive in a straight line (although i DID feel a good tightening up of my front end when "launching" hard with a front strut). I feel that a front bar alone has little effect when driving "hard" on twisties. I've never been on a track however, so it might be a whole different ball game there. :)

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Originally Posted by Anthony38

Hello everyone

I owe a EM1. as many of you's know the seats are crap. And I find that the car has a lot of body roll. Meaning I have to go around corners like my grandma.
What is a decent/affordable way to reduce it without lowering the car?


Thanks in Advance.

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dude, i've got an EM1 too (great car). I've lowered mine a bit with King springs still using factory shocks and i'm rolling on 18' rims. The next thing I'd be wanting to get is a rear tower brace and probably sway bars from "whiteline"...............let us know how you go.

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Originally Posted by joneblaze

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Originally Posted by tanghy

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Originally Posted by joneblaze

BTW, a front strut brace will do basically NOTHING.

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you wanna back that up?

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Just going from what I've felt on my car. Purely personal experience. I can't back that up with any physics or theories. :)
I'm not saying a front brace wouldn't do anything as part of a suspension setup, but alone it won't do much at all IMO.

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Remember Jon.....you still dont fully understand your "bars".... :roll:

You had a "chassis brace"(ala stock ITR or vtir etc)....not a "strut bar " ( like my Carbling ....which connects to the suspension struts....WHICH for the clever name too :roll: ).

A actual good ( not $23.00 US thankyou Danny) strut brace will significantly change the characteristics of a cars handling.......being more neutral/understeer bias If a front strut brace , and more neutral/oversteer bias in the back if a rear one.
For a FWD car....a rear-strut-brace should be on ur shopping list first - then after other sussy mods a front one too to even out.

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC02771.jpg
FRONT STRUT BRACE

http://img34.photobucket.com/albums/...n/DSC02780.jpg
REAR STRUT BRACE

go t3h carbling http://members.iinet.net.au/~ehor/smileys/holla.gif

LOL@Bren.... :oops: Owned. *sigh*