Skid around corner.

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Originally Posted by badthing

I do the same as I don't like surprises. Do you have VSA off in the wet as well?

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Off all the time. But you have to get used to using your accelerator more and not just keep it at one position through the corner.

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Get better tyres. Bridgestone RE001 adrenalins are pretty reasonably priced

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Ok, will look into it when it's time for tyre replacement,
mean time I'll just be more gentle with the gas :) ... Thanks

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Originally Posted by 6MT

Talking about understeer at roundabout, I experience this every time I go around (a particular) double lane round about when the road is wet.

One wet morning I drove to this round about with speed only around 30km/hr. Surprisingly, my euro understeered heavily at mid bend and snap to a sudden oversteer :o (not sure if the VSA lighted up at this point). Luckily, there was no other car next to me in this double lane roundabout, as I have taken both :(

My query is if this is normal, have you guys experienced this before? Or is it just my car? If it is, should I replace tyres or adjust alignment do u think?

As I never experience this in my other car (stock prelude with shity tyres) during similar driving & condition

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How are the condition of your tires, the front vs the back tires?

Watch this...
http://www.michelinman.com/tire-care...artire-change/

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85011

this may happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tZlCx9VYkI

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How are the condition of your tires, the front vs the back tires?

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my front and back tyres are equally good ...almost like new

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Originally Posted by tanalasta

*grins* you took a right hand corner at only 60km/h???

If you have driven your car for a while and know it's limits, then I should add the following pointers:
1. FWD cars naturally understeer.
2. VSA only detects wheel slip in Australian models on the front wheels. Hence if you take a sharp corner and your rear tyres lose traction slightly around the corner, that's normal.
3. Please don't hit a curb doing this (or hit something period) as then it could damage your chasis/suspension/wheels. Best place to try this sort of driving is on a track.
4. I have 17" Bridgestone REO40's which are slightly better than the 16" dunlop OEM's.
5. The Euro has one of the better lateral grip and cornering chasis's on a non-sport orientated vehicle. It won't corner like a Porsche but it corners better than most.
6. Once you REALLY know what you're doing, turn off VSA. VSA also limits the accelleration gain on the pedal during a corner. Once you learn how to judge a corner and optimise your entry/exit speeds (or really accelerate around a corner), you'll take it faster that way.
7. Don't ever do it in the wet unless you're on a track or you don't mind paying the excess on your insurance policy. ;)

It's heaps of fun taking corners at fast speeds near your car's limit within common sense constraints. But know what you're doing first ... too many young hoons out there who misjudge and cause damage or danger to others/themselves.

And remember at $300 each, tyres ain't cheap.

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honda doesnt have different VSA models for different countries..? all honda VSA is made up of 4x wheel hall effect sensors (the same sensors that are used to detect wheel speed for 4ch ABS), steering sensor, and yaw rate sensor...

Accord Euro has only front 2 wheel sensors, this was back in 2004. They might have put 4 wheel sensors in 2006, but I have no idea if they did or not.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Accord Euro has only front 2 wheel sensors, this was back in 2004. They might have put 4 wheel sensors in 2006, but I have no idea if they did or not.

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its four channel ABS tho... therefore, they need sensors in all four wheels...

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

its four channel ABS tho... therefore, they need sensors in all four wheels...

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There was some tech paper on the Accord, comparing the differences between the TSX and the European Accord, and this was found to be one of the differences. Doesn't the ABS sensor detect only wheel lock-up? Does it actually measure wheel rpm?

Yea, i had to test the limitations of my cd5.

I test it before i do any modifications which could influence the cars movement.
e.g. I tested it before changing my stock suspension to tein coilovers, the difference is brilliant haha. The car had a bit of body roll, but far easier to handle than stock suspension.
i also tested before replacing my brake pads, I went round the corner, and tried to see if i could get the car to slide out a little before and after i changed the pads (without locking up abs). It was in an industrial area, in the early hours. I do not endorse this activity at all, however I do feel people should know the limitations of their car, it will help you when driving in shitty conditions. I have friends with corollas who think wet roads have no affect on them turning corners and hitting the accelerator as much as they can.
I know ppl will get on here and start abusing me for trying this on the roads, but it was in a good area, far from any cars or people.

Have done this but in a turn at about 60ks,
Understeered a touch and traction control kicked up but apart from that your drivetrain or chassis will not experience problems later on for a menuver like that