Buddy Club N+ racing coilovers on Euro review

SS is 8/4, Flex is 10/6, N+ is 12/6

Sodaz, is your Racing spec or just N+? What's your spring rate?

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Originally Posted by Jegi#5

Thanks aaron, I was initially looking at Tein SS however the BC's have swayed me.

Cheers.

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Feature-wise, the N+ is closer to the Flex because it has the adjustable lower mount, stiffer springs and the upper pillowball mount.

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Originally Posted by euro77

What are the spring rates? is it 12 front and 6 rear?



You have to be mindful of what you will be using your car for and what level of comfort you expect from the coilover. Tein SS spring rate is 10 front and 6 rear. This means Tein SS should be less bumpier (if buddy club n+ is 12 front). Tein Flex, on the other hand, is 14 front and 8 rear, which is more bumpier than buddy club n+. Just thought you should know (in case you don't) before you decide this is the coilover for you/your car. Tanabe Sustec Pro S-OC (the one I have before, euroaccord13 has them on now) is 8 front and 4 rear, which pretty much retains the comfort when being driven daily.

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THat is handy to know, that's for that as the car won't see track, instead I am looking for a street setup which retains comfort somewhat (let's be realistic on Sydney roads) and yet improves the handling. I'm more biased to the handling side of things than comfort but from Sodaz review of the BC's in and around Sydney he seems to not mind them too much.

However from what I have heard everyone who has the Tein SS and use it for Street have no complaints what so ever, but for Track (which I won't take the Euro on) people are saying its a tad too soft which doesn't bother me. The BC's seem to be cheaper though than the Tein's which had swayed me however after your advice euro77 and Aaron's on the BC N+ being closer to the flex, I am thinking Tein's again. Also bearing in mind that I will be upgrading from the 17 inch stockies later this year to 18inch BC rims, which will have less rubber between the road and the rim would make it a bumpier ride.

PS: With the Spring Rate, from the info you have provided I am assuming the lower the Spring Rate the softer the spring and hence the more comfort orientated it is, however less responsive?

Yes, the lower the spring rate, the more comfortable it is, because it will be able to "bounce" easier. However, because it "bounce" easier, during hard cornering, your car will be "less flat" compared to if you use higher spring rate.

When I say "bounce" easier, think of it that the wheels will be easier to follow the bump (up and down), hence you won't feel the bump that much.

I would advise you to try how the buddy club N+ ride on the car (if sodaz wants to take you for a spin), then try another car with tein ss. See which one you prefer, and if you find buddy club N+ is still comfortable for you. remember that the comfort level is often subjective, what one says as comfortable might not be comfortable for others :D

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Feature-wise, the N+ is closer to the Flex because it has the adjustable lower mount, stiffer springs and the upper pillowball mount.

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I've experienced using tein flex and BC racing spec, both is good, and I think they both got similar characteristic. N+ more to SS maybe?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

SS is 8/4, Flex is 10/6, N+ is 12/6

Sodaz, is your Racing spec or just N+? What's your spring rate?

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Mine is N+ spec so it's 12/6 and i have it set at 8/6 atm.

In terms of stiffness i think it's (Correct me if i'm wrong):

1. BC Racing Spec (track bias with less street focus)
2. Tein FLEX, BC N+ (street bias with more track focus)
3. SS (street bias, not really designed for track)
4. Tanabe Sustec (street bias, not really designed for track)
5. A Spec (very streetable and close to stock)

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Originally Posted by euro77

Yes, the lower the spring rate, the more comfortable it is, because it will be able to "bounce" easier. However, because it "bounce" easier, during hard cornering, your car will be "less flat" compared to if you use higher spring rate.

When I say "bounce" easier, think of it that the wheels will be easier to follow the bump (up and down), hence you won't feel the bump that much.

I would advise you to try how the buddy club N+ ride on the car (if sodaz wants to take you for a spin), then try another car with tein ss. See which one you prefer, and if you find buddy club N+ is still comfortable for you. remember that the comfort level is often subjective, what one says as comfortable might not be comfortable for others :D

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That's good advice, however it's hard to fully appreciate or resent a decision made on suspension without living with it day in and day out. Having said that I think people who go after stiffer springs\shocks combo or a coil over setup is kidding themselves if they expect a luxurious ride.

To be quite honest with you I am more into a flatter ride and making the Euro handle better than ride quality but having said that I don't want a bone jarring ride on Sydney's slabbed roads. Like you said before, each person has a different definition of what comfort is. Having said that I will look into the Tein Super Streets, however from memory the BC's are cheaper.

Euro77 and Aaronng again thanks for all your help, and Sodaz sorry for sort of high jacking your thread but without your review I don't think I would have put much thought into it, so cheers for that!!!! :honda:

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Originally Posted by Jegi#5

That's good advice, however it's hard to fully appreciate or resent a decision made on suspension without living with it day in and day out. Having said that I think people who go after stiffer springs\shocks combo or a coil over setup is kidding themselves if they expect a luxurious ride.

To be quite honest with you I am more into a flatter ride and making the Euro handle better than ride quality but having said that I don't want a bone jarring ride on Sydney's slabbed roads. Like you said before, each person has a different definition of what comfort is. Having said that I will look into the Tein Super Streets, however from memory the BC's are cheaper.

Euro77 and Aaronng again thanks for all your help, and Sodaz sorry for sort of high jacking your thread but without your review I don't think I would have put much thought into it, so cheers for that!!!! :honda:

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If you want good street performance but a more comfortable ride you might consider getting a slightly softer set of coilovers (e.g Tein SS) and then adding a rear sway bar to further reduce the body roll. The front strut brace and the lower tie bar also help stiffen the chassis for better response. That way you can have a good handling car that's also comfortable.

No problems at all. It's always good to gather more thoughts and ideas! :D

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Originally Posted by sodaz

Mine is N+ spec so it's 12/6 and i have it set at 8/6 atm.

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You can't set your spring rate. Do mean you set the damper rate?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

You can't set your spring rate. Do mean you set the damper rate?

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LOL i definitely wasn't awake last night. Yeah i meant the damper rate.

I think my cusco type 1 lower arm bar is rubbing against some of those darn shopping centre speed bumps. What should i do? I don't want to remove it cause it's a good addition to the Euro. :confused::confused::confused:

you can set your car higher :D
or try going through the bumps diagonally and realllly slow :D

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Originally Posted by euro77

you can set your car higher :D
or try going through the bumps diagonally and realllly slow :D

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Working well so far. Thanks mate!