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		Ok well i think ive come t the conclusion that Ek's do use abit more fuel then Egs... But a combination of my autmatic, city driving and accelleration (sice the car is so slow) means that my consumption is where it is. However it still is running abit rich but it seems like im not far off.. Looks like i'll have to slowly replace parts to find the problem. Im sure it does have to do with my mods but where is the o2 sensor and how can i check if its broken.. 
 
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		Grab a haynes manual, gives u all the info on how to checkout every sensor. 
 
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		also look up  the specs of your maximum torque figure with your revs, there is no point reving the car much past that to get fuel economy, as it will only guzzle more the higher you rev. 
 
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		cheak your air cleaner and O2 sensor.
 in my CRX B16a2, I get 470 to 520 kms to 45l fuel with nice driving ( well a little Vtec )  the light comes on at 430 Kms with City Driving
 
 
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		This might be a dumb question but can running a full aftermarket exhaust and replacement panel filter make a car run rich??
 
 ...... me thinks not but since the H/E got installed and moreso up until recently, (when timing belt got changed) the car seems to smell a little like unburnt fuel when I got it running and have to step out to get to the hatch or similar.
 
 Or could there be another problem...... would it be worth getting a dyno run with the A/F reader attached to it?  *only cause haven't had the car on a dyno since the exhaust was installed.  :roll:
 
 
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		Nah I don't have any mods to speak of - stock as a rock besides the 17's but that don't matter - and it's a fricken GLi! But mind you it's like only a 35-40L tank isn't it? So 10km per L isn't that bad in what would be a majority or suburban driving? 
 
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		that actually sounds right for an Auto civic, i got a manual GLi, and get about 400-450km with a bit of mixed driving, so 350-400km for an auto is about spot on. Nothing to worry about. 
 
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		hey dude that mileage sounds about right
 
 ive got an ek gli model and i usually get about 420k's out of a full tank of optimax, ive pushed it to 450k's but i think i was almost running on fumes at that time hehe
 
 my only mods are a 2inch cat back exhaust, ive also got 18s on my car which makes the engine work harder to get the wheels moving
 
 
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		i drive an EG VTI auto as well
 and your fuel consumption is just like mine so i assume its right
 
 i have never driven till the fuel light comes on, the needle is like on E already
 
 always fill up around 380 km and it takes ~38L
 
 so 10L/100km for me
 
 
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		Thanks for all your replies guys! Most replies with the EK seem to be similar to me. All over models seem to be chewing less fuel... The Ek civic has a 45 L tank.. Well while we are on this topic... when the light comes on.. how many kms would i have left? or litres. 
 
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		take a can of petrol one day and leave it in ur car, keep driving until your car stops and you'll know roughly how many km's u can get out of a full tank...
 will depend on how and where u drive.
 
 i wasn't aware that small mods like exhuast and air instake lower the km's so much... i swear i can get 600km's out of my vti manual.
 
 ohh and my tank tanks around 45 litres by the book i think. but i've filled it to over 47 litres when it was truel empty
 
 
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		Ek has a fuel light? I have never got that far :( i feel so un-manly. I get to just below the red line then get nervous. The fuel gauge is so shit 1/2 of the tank can be used before the dial shows less then 100% full.