Whiteline

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Originally Posted by beeza

Whiteline sell a faulty product.This has been prooved time and time again.He is due full compensation and an apology.

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If you read 0098's post,

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he didn't even buy the whiteline sway bar

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. It was put onto his car by the previous owner that owned the car. I bet he was happy when he purchased the car that he was getting a whiteline bar included in the price. ;) I won't think Whiteline is obligated in any way to cover 0098's repair bill. If the previous owner who purchased the bar was complaining, then yes, Whiteline has some obligation.

I wonder if 0098 installed a reinforcement kit like all EK owners are advised to if they have an upgraded rear sway bar. http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...=torn+subframe

And it's not 100% whiteline's fault. Even Accord Euros have the problem with the rear subframe bracket tearing if we use a swaybar thicker than 22mm with poly bushings and thicker endlinks.

beeza , as mentioned above the user 0098 isnt due compensation of any kind. IF whiteline agrees to any sort of compensation its in their moral grounding , not legal or technical.

FYI aarong and everyone , the "kit" for this example is the tried and tested 20/22mm swaybar kit with "mounting". There is no simple swaybar addition.

Other companies ( BEAKS for example) have had problems with their kits and rectified quite quickly. But whitelines "version 2 " kit is still not at the same league of its competition ( ASR / BEAKS).

Best of luck 0098 and contact whiteline direct as mentioned by me eariler

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Guys , please contact whiteline direct http://www.whiteline.com.au/ OR

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PHONE:
(02) 9603 0111
1800 040 003 (toll free)
int+ 61 2 9603 0111 (international)
Please , in the meantime avoid whiteline products UNTIL they have rectified their "build" issues.

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It is purely their products fault, if i purchased the thing or not isnt really the point. It isnt their obligation to give me a refund ofcourse not but they should be held accountable and take responsibility, just like if i purchase a house and the washing machine that i didnt buy but was already there catches on fire and burns my house down i think dishlex or whoever would get some blame.
Saw some people today about getting it fixed, they all said it is a shit design and the supporting brackets are not good enought etc..

Im over it and its better i dont see anyone from whiteline because i know whoever deals with me is just a worker and they shouldnt cop abuse.. If it was the owner of whiteline then that would be a different story:kiss2:

Whiteline always looked cheap and dodgy to me and in the end i was right.

Love yas all
whiteline:thumbdwn:

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Originally Posted by 0098

If it was the owner of whiteline then that would be a different story:kiss2:

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gettin freakay with the owner for some compo aye :P

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Originally Posted by aaronng

If you read 0098's post, . It was put onto his car by the previous owner that owned the car. I bet he was happy when he purchased the car that he was getting a whiteline bar included in the price. ;) I won't think Whiteline is obligated in any way to cover 0098's repair bill. If the previous owner who purchased the bar was complaining, then yes, Whiteline has some obligation..

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I agree they dont have to do anything, but the bar caused the fault and this in my opinion place moral issues on Whiteline.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

And it's not 100% whiteline's fault. Even Accord Euros have the problem with the rear subframe bracket tearing if we use a swaybar thicker than 22mm with poly bushings and thicker endlinks.

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I disagree. They are selling a product that they know may cause problems. At a minimum they should have big bold warnings on the bars/boxes/instructions that say there is a potential issue with installing larger swaybars and that the owner is taking some risk installing it.

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Originally Posted by Zdster

I disagree. They are selling a product that they know may cause problems. At a minimum they should have big bold warnings on the bars/boxes/instructions that say there is a potential issue with installing larger swaybars and that the owner is taking some risk installing it.

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If you purchased a rear sway bar for the EK from another brand that did not have a suitable reinforcement kit, you would also get the same subframe tearing. The difference is that other brands have rectified the problem by including good bracing. Whiteline hasn't and I am agreeing with you that their product is inferior. What I am disagreeing with is that a car's chassis is designed with OEM parts in mind. When you use upgraded/stiffer parts, you place additional stresses that can overwhelm the material/thickness that the chassis is made out of. When you purchase an aftermarket higher-specced product or a car with such a part, this is the risk that you choose to take.

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

Other companies ( BEAKS for example) have had problems with their kits and rectified quite quickly. But whitelines "version 2 " kit is still not at the same league of its competition ( ASR / BEAKS).

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Beaks is pretty shit dude.. i would think it would be only on par with the Whitline V2 (the latest one)

ITs either comptech or ASR.

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Originally Posted by BlitZ

Beaks is pretty shit dude.. i would think it would be only on par with the Whitline V2 (the latest one)

ITs either comptech or ASR.

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The Comptech 22mm rear sway bar either breaks the endlinks or tears the mount off the subframe on the Accord Euros. There is also a Progress 22mm bar, and that doesn't cause the same problem.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

The Comptech 22mm rear sway bar either breaks the endlinks or tears the mount off the subframe on the Accord Euros. There is also a Progress 22mm bar, and that doesn't cause the same problem.

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We are talkin about EK here:thumbsup:

they use OEM endlinks and is almost exactly the same as ASR (EK) from memory

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Originally Posted by BlitZ

We are talkin about EK here:thumbsup:

they use OEM endlinks and is almost exactly the same as ASR (EK) from memory

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I know, but I am saying you can't generalise whether a brand is good or bad. If they have a product that exceeds the limits of the chassis, you will get damage if there is no bracing in the product, doesn't matter if it is a good or shit brand.

Comes down to where or not they have a duty of care towards you. As you did not purchase the product from them, they only have a contract with the original owner. You would have to get compensation from the prior owner and then they would have to get compensation from whiteline. Whiteline would not have any obligations to a 3rd party who was not privvy to the original purchase.

I know its tough but that's how things are. Suing the original owner will be hard as they do not have any obligations of warranty toward you also. Just rem. 'buyer beware'. Know what you are buying before you buy it.

Just rem folks if your gonna run the whiteline bar, i would recommend and ASR brace, at worse use the beaks kit. I've tried with and without and it wouldn't use another whiteline bar now without the ASR brace.

its all about the dishlex theory