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07-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Feverpitched

It's funny. So many replies yet nobody's answered his question - whether it's legal to have staged offset/wider wheels on a FWD car. It's been hinted that it is, but no solid answer has been given yet. He didn't ask about 'wrong' offsets, and not about tiny 5c super positive rims either.

As for why, he may just be after the staged look - nothing wrong with that. I personally like the staged look myself, but I wouldn't do it to my FWD. But its not my car we're talking about. Pull your heads in, its the noob section ffs.
07-04-2008, 04:55 PM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by Feverpitched

It's funny. So many replies yet nobody's answered his question - whether it's legal to have staged offset/wider wheels on a FWD car. It's been hinted that it is, but no solid answer has been given yet. He didn't ask about 'wrong' offsets, and not about tiny 5c super positive rims either.

As for why, he may just be after the staged look - nothing wrong with that. I personally like the staged look myself, but I wouldn't do it to my FWD. But its not my car we're talking about. Pull your heads in, its the noob section ffs.

That question was answered very early in the thread. It is ILLEGAL to have staged offsets (or staged tyre widths) on a FWD car in Australia.
07-04-2008, 05:55 PM
FAT VTI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feverpitched

It's funny. So many replies yet nobody's answered his question - whether it's legal to have staged offset/wider wheels on a FWD car. It's been hinted that it is, but no solid answer has been given yet. He didn't ask about 'wrong' offsets, and not about tiny 5c super positive rims either.

As for why, he may just be after the staged look - nothing wrong with that. I personally like the staged look myself, but I wouldn't do it to my FWD. But its not my car we're talking about. Pull your heads in, its the noob section ffs.

FAT VTI SAID-

2. If your wheel/tyre comes past your guard(sticks out) it is illegal in NSW (don't know in other states).

Read a little closer mate. was even said earlier than that^
07-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Feverpitched

Yes, aaron, I'm aware you hinted that. Any chance you could direct me to where it says that?

FAT: 1. I'm not your mate. 2, I have no idea where in "staged offset" you found the words "wheels come past your guard". Time to read again?
07-04-2008, 06:26 PM
cristian

i always thought staggered offset means the width outside edge of left tyre to the outside edge of right tyre from the front wheels are narrower than the rears...

but then theres photos being uploaded of civics with simply wide offset...nothing to do about being staggered?!??
07-04-2008, 06:55 PM
cristian

just a quick paint image i made...this is how i understand staggered offsets and how ineffective they are on fwds...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2...eed/offset.jpg

the blue lines just shows the disposition in where distributing weight from front to back...

a. is the normal identical offset we're all used to...weight at the front is distributed to the same length as the rear...so on and so forth...

b. on the other hand is staggered offset...narrower weight distribution compared to the rear...

now since FWD's have pull the weight of the vehicle from the narrower front wheel track, then due to inertia if u changed the direction of the car's weight would be focused on a narrower wheel track...

soo...if u were driving at cruising rate then change directions, a 90 degree right turn...

the cars weight would be focused on the front left...
it's almost like focusing the weight of triangle...and having the weight of 2 sides of a triangle weighing on the side...
secondly, as u accellerate...the drive from the front would also transfer weight to the rear left...and as it does that, it will also have to fight the natural physics of having a more stable rear end of the car since its got a wider track...this will only encourage traction loss as a result of two forces fighting each other...

hmm...

i know the img isnt much, but its the best i could explain...

oh...and if im wrong, then i'll be another noob to learn something off this thread...
07-04-2008, 11:41 PM
Feverpitched

cristian, I think you and me have the same idea of 'staged' or 'staggered' offset.

I personally think having a different offset front and back for a FWD isn't ideal, but I ultimately think it will be much of a muchness for a daily driver. Let's face it, if you don't push your car's handling limits every day then I don't see too much of an issue. And if you were to find issue, it will be a question of degree - it will depend on how much difference there is between the offsets.

As to the original question, I don't know whether its legal or not because my brief research hasn't revealed anything of note.

Good on you for reading the post and not making ASSumptions.
07-04-2008, 11:43 PM
bennjamin

Does not change the fact that it is illegal. Full stop.
It may also be damaging to the car/wheels due to different offset.
08-04-2008, 09:45 AM
Feverpitched

You're getting to the crux of my point, bennjamin. You've said that it's illegal without telling us why, or who said its illegal.

To be frank, if I believed what everyone said on this forum I'd be in big, big trouble.

And as for damage, why would it damage the car/wheels, when some cars come stock with staged offset? And some larger cars (supra, skyline's, 350z's, high end mercs and bmw's etc) either come stock or owners put staged offset wheels on without any ill effect?
08-04-2008, 10:03 AM
bennjamin

I have been told by the police. Without hesitation , i believe them rather than your questioning...There is documentation out there im sure if someone can dig it up.

BTW only RWD or some AWD cars would run "staged" offset. NOT FWDs. That is the point of this thread :)
08-04-2008, 10:11 AM
[[d a n n y]]

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Originally Posted by Feverpitched

You're getting to the crux of my point, bennjamin. You've said that it's illegal without telling us why, or who said its illegal.

To be frank, if I believed what everyone said on this forum I'd be in big, big trouble.

And as for damage, why would it damage the car/wheels, when some cars come stock with staged offset? And some larger cars (supra, skyline's, 350z's, high end mercs and bmw's etc) either come stock or owners put staged offset wheels on without any ill effect?

some of these cars have those sort of offset due to the large brakes and such they have and they have difference drive train set ups
as for the owner putting it in it's with their own risk...
no 1 is telling u to believe what we say.. if u dont think it's right then dont beleive it no 1's got a gun to your head
this forum is here to share out experiece and such.
08-04-2008, 10:20 AM
Q_ball

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Originally Posted by nugget666

it is illegal to have a staggerd offset on a fwd car as far as i am aware.

Yes it is

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Originally Posted by dsp26

^^^yep..

but some people have to learn the hard way if they don't wanna listen and try to make excuses and justifications for themselves...

I say leave this thread as is and let him do what he wants.

we really should have a "Funniest threads ev4r" section

Agreed :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Feverpitched

You're getting to the crux of my point, bennjamin. You've said that it's illegal without telling us why, or who said its illegal.

Its common sense that tells you that its illegal... and this common sense is backed up by documents and info from both Police and the RTA.

You cannot drive with a staggered offset (meaning one set of tyres is wider than the other... be it front or rear)

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