eg6 no doubt man.. just cos its newer :)
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eg6 no doubt man.. just cos its newer :)
I will enjoy driving my all go no show aussie civic thankyou.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
Why would I drive a lesser spec car then mine aka EG6 and go "Oh my goodness, this is AWESOME" when mine is heaps better specked.
I care about the overall track package of a car, not some stupid Vin plate. I'll put an EG6 vin plate on my car and apart from no EG6 rear wing and bronze rear glass you won't be able to tell the differance, but who cares anyway.
But you got EG6 on your VIN, congrats.
This thread is about standard civics and as a standard street car EG6 is the ultimate EG civic but as soon as modified comes into it its only a VIN plate mate.
When you set the lap record in your fully sik JDM EG6 I'll listen to you about car performance.
This is EG6 VS EF9, not some dude with a chrome gearbox (pfff) telling everyone else that unless you have an EG6 your not King Dick.
Do you see the lap record holders (I won't mention companys/people but most people know who they are) around Australia whether it be in drag racing or circuit racing stressing that their EG's arn't EG6's?????? Honestly dude, you own an EG with bolt ons done by Honda, get over it.
Don't get me wrong, I would love an EG6/EF9 as a work bunky/weekend hacker car so I wouldn't have to drive my gutted track civic to work and everywhere with ear plugs and get police attention etc etc but rest assured when I do get one I won't be like "Oh my god, I own a JDM civic yo, I'm king dick" cos for pure performance/driving pleasure my AUSSIE EG5 will shame it, but for taking the missus out to the movies or dinner etc (Its embarrassing taking a chick out in a 90's civic even if it is an EG6) I'm sure she will apreciate the EG6 over the EG5 track whore as she won't have to yell on the freeway to overcome the noise, and won't have to bring 3 pillows to soften the blows of the suspension lol
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Originally Posted by Cooker
oh i forgot it was a thread about eg5 race car/ef9
i forgot we were talking about road car here that is going to get used by the op on the rd
and civics that are jdm
oh yeah you dont own one
please love to see what a real hond arace car looks like
looks like you think you are king shit track race car driver to me
i wish i had a race spec aussie civic
make sure you understand the title before you post next time
thats right you couldnt read it because you left your visor down
still got your helmet on from racing
nice one
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL hey lan im a racerboy too you offend me. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
Whatever forum warrior, if I can't see out my visor how did I set the lap record.
Don't reply with some lame comeback, I'm sure the guy that started this thread knows by now what people think about EG6 and EF9.
the optional ABS on the EF9 SiR II was an absolute joke. Bulky and adding weight to the car - and it was hit and miss. A mate who had it in his removed it and replaced it with the standard SiR brakes. All SiRs had folding mirrors - the automatic folding ones I've seen once and that was at a wrecking yard and only the controller for it. The optional climate control was ok - I ran a relay to mine to bypass it though. Maplights - I can't find them in any of the Japanese brochures I have on the EF9 (Primo dealership).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
Dammit - you made me go through all my EF9 catalogues including my Mugen EF9 one... time to start saving for a new EF :)
To the guy claiming Au spec cars over JDM ones... ignorance is a blissful state isn't it? :)
You referring to me? Are everyones eyes painted on? I said, once MODIFIED it doesn't matter if its JDM, AUDM, USDM etc etcQuote:
Originally Posted by Setanta
As I have stated, in standard form EG6 rules.
still waiting for picsQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooker
and the op to post his pics
lots of talk but still no pics
Thought it would be quite obvious that I was talking about power folding mirrors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Setanta
I'm very happy with my automatic climate control, thanks very much. So much so that I have an automatic climate control from an SiR-G Integra ready to go into my d2r. I just need to find some sensors for it.
Regarding the maplights........... DUHHHHH
Keep looking, did I ever refer to ef9?? No, ef9 owners & drivers can go sit on the manual gearstick and shove it up their arse. eg6 owners too for that matter. I'm talking about ef8 cr-x here mate, with glass roof. Glass roof models came with maplights. Did you know that glass roof models are lighter than sunroof models?
Go save up for an EF, just make sure you get an EF8 this time, instead of an EF9.
Happy hunting:wave::wave::wave:
:thumbsup::thumbsup:
By ten kilos :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
normal roof 20kg lighter :thumbsup:
lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by gen2 CRX
Honda says that it's only ten kilo's lighter without the glass roof.Quote:
Originally Posted by gen2 CRX
and it also sux:wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by gen2 CRX
lol. *facepalm*
gen2 crx is correct, sunroof add 20kg.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
glass roof add 10 kg.
Thought he was talking about the glass roof. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bludger
hell this thread is pathetic.. id rather be rocking a ef chassis any day :cool:. It all comes down to what you dig at the end of the day..if you dig a eg chassis then go ahead and rock one.
My ABS is rooted and I want to take it out. But can't find anyone with OEM SiR Non ABS Brake Lines. Sigh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Setanta
Although the man is prob the most hated person on this thread he is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
the only reason you pay 10k more for an EG6 is to have the number it on the chassis, if you dont understand that, then theres no point explaining it.
and +1 for EG6 many more interchangable goodies for them and the wank factor is strong with an EG6 :p
to bad your from perth, around a month back this old guy posted up an original eg6 came with all extras and the original momo steering wheel. he was selling for cheap also. i mean real cheap.
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Originally Posted by rpm boy
dunno bout an eg6 but with ef9/8 its much cheaper to buy the genuine thing than to build a replica??
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Originally Posted by rpm boy
ef9s are hitting the 10k mark too now
thats why you bought a jdm gt four
when you could of just got a celica with a conversion
thats right you pay more than 10k just to have gt four on the back of your heavy ass slow car
how do i know my brother use to own
+1 for the GT four wank factor for pos rally car is strong with the gt four
funny how you own jdm cars
why didnt you just buy aussie models and do them up instead of getting the real models ? lol
typical ozhonda members talking about stuff they dont know anything about again
LOL....
tell them how it is Lan.
This isn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by shitbox
I think it's true. You can get a good EF8 CRX for anywhere between $7000-11000 depending on condition and mods etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
Otherwise you'd pay more than half that for an ED9 or EF7, another $3000-3500 to purchase/install a B16A (assuming most idiots buying converted CRXs are dumb enough to not swap the engine themselves) and then even more money for the SiR bonnet, bumper, indicators etc (and they're all a pain to find & expensive to buy).
For example I bought my glass-top EF8 for $8500 (I believe this was a good deal for 9 months ago). It had 96,500 original KMs on in and a very straight body. Already had RS*R headers and a 5Zigen cat-back, 14" watanabe rims, spare set of 17" rims, RWC, some rego, RS*R shocks, RS*R short shifter, momo steering wheel etc etc.
If I'd wanted an ED9 or EF7 with similar body condition and KMs I'd surely have to pay around the $7000 mark. So I think if you build your own replica you'd probably pay around 30-50% more in the long-run. Not to mention, legally, it should require an engineering cert because the B16A CRX wasn't an Australian delivered option for the model.
Then, at the end of the day, it's a shitty replica and everybody raises an eyebrow when it goes up for sale because it's obviously been totally messed with.
JDM FTW. Anything else is a compromise and you shouldn't bother trying to make it JDM.
So 3500, plus the cost of the front end conversion, so say 1500? Lets say 500 for road worthies and engineering certificates. That's still far less than 7-10k.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
Not saying it's better, i just don't think it's cheaper.
Well, that's $5500 + ED9/EF7 price. And to get one in good knick? You can get a shit ED9/EF7 for like $3000-4000 which would equal the price of a good EF8, or to buy a good ED9/EF7 you could pay $5000-7000 and suddenly you're paying a price equal to an immaculate EF8.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
Maybe as well just buy a good knick EF8, yeah? I believe it's cheaper that way. Conversions are for desperate people who aren't prepared to wait twelve months for a good SiR like I did :D
I read the 3500 was including the car and b16 conversion.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
You can pick up a clean shell (not running, you don't need the old engine!) for less than 1k. I would even go as far as saying it's possible to pick them up for a couple of hundred.
And 5-7k doesn't get you an immaculate EF8.
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Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
True about the shell, good point.
And no I'm not saying $5000-7000 gets you an immaculate EF8. I already said I paid $8500 for mine which isn't immaculate, and that they range from $7000-11000 so you would think my opinion of immaculate is more around the $10000 mark, right?
What I was saying is that paying $5000-7000 for a very tidy ED9/EF7 and then factoring in about $5500 worth of engine, labour and body conversion (as previously discussed) would equate to $10000-13000 and for that sum you'd be looking at just getting an immaculate EF8.
But yes, true about the rolling shell. However I stand by my argument that at the end of the day all you have is a non-genuine attempt at owning a JDM EF8 CRX and people don't respect it because you didn't originally respect it for what it was and ended up messing with it...
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Originally Posted by dougie_504
It's cool, i see where you are coming from, piecing together cars can be expensive, especially when you don't know what you're doing, though if that's the case you probably shouldn't attempt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dougie_504
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Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
Dude I don't think you're understanding me here:
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Originally Posted by dougie_504
I'm saying that the conversion might cost $5500 (which becomes our starting expense figure) and then you need to factor in the price of an average ED9/EF7 for $3000-4000 or a very good ED9/EF7 for $5000-7000, taking the total price of buying/converting a non-SiR CRX to somewhere between $8500-$12500
At this point you're looking very much at the price of a very clean ($8500) to immaculate/show room EF8 ($11000+) ---> coming back to my original point that to build a replica is not cheaper.
That is, of course, not including your rolling shell idea which is a very good point.
All clear?
Ok i see, I don't know why you'd strip down a mint example of an ED9/EF7 if it was all going to be converted, and that conversion price seems extremely inflated. If you don't know how to get parts cheaper than that, then you're better off buying one either already assembled or original.
please tell me where or how to get a full conversion for 1500, my understanding is ur looking at 4-5 grand for a conversion parts + labour and its still just gonna be a civic/crx with a b16 nothing wrong with this at all i personaly bought my sir because it was a cheaper option...Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
That's fine, i'm not going to argue the cost, if you don't know where to get it for cheaper than that's not my bad luck. If you're looking for a conversion, sitting in an import shop then ofcourse paying retail for the conversion is going to be more than finding the parts yourself. I'd also like to see a break down on that 4-5 grand on exactly how much you think a couple of headlights, a hood and a filler piece are going to be priced at. Again:Quote:
Originally Posted by shitbox
Why would you take on this kind of thing if you couldn't do it yourself.
Yeah true. ED9s and EF7s are nice as they are. But yeah, the point we're debating is that to 'build' a replica isn't worth it when you can buy the original cheaper (just that they're harder to find).Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
No, we didn't say that man. Sp33 and I agreed that the conversion would cost $3500 +/- for B16A engine/labour and another $1500 for bumper, bonnet, indicators, spray/labour etc ----> so we figured it was about $5000+ for conversion to SiR.Quote:
Originally Posted by shitbox
Exactly, it's a waste of time and money. And it might be worth buying a well done project replica but at the end of the day everybody raises an eyebrow because the car has been seriously messed with and disrespected for what it originally was to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Sp33~
how come the dohc vtec decal is missing? or its the pics that arent clear?Quote:
Originally Posted by mocchi
it had no stickers when i bought it
yonas has mine in storage lol
and it looks alot shitter now
what looks a lot shitter? the decal in storage?
Man i cant get over how immaculate that interior is.
yonas has a shit load of them pm him if you want a set
im still waiting for the op to post pics of these cars he got offered
no pics all talk
That's OzHonda for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
did i miss something? firstly i was praising you for your ownership of JDM cars and was expressing how if you cant understand why you would pay more money for a little number then STFUQuote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
Also i do have done up aussie cars only because jdm cars are worth more left stock and unmolested and as for the GT4, i have an Aus spec of the same model with the exact same spec motor and it goes better than the JDM model.... but i still like the jdm model more as its got the Number on the chassis
Also theres only a handfull in the country and its worth a sh!tload more to enthusiests
was lucky enough to sit in an ef9 the other day.. all i can say is wow.. =).. what a beautiful car.. =)
Mate if you're after an old school civic/honda The Eg or EF are nice cars. Im a CRX man myself but given your circumstances and your wants an needs Id say go for a DC5R. They are new, relaible becasue they are new and all the yummy bits are ready to go. Inevitabely old cars cost money to keep nice because they are old and have wear an tear beyond those of new cars...only makes sense. So for a trouble free Honda go newest as possible. All hondas are good cars and reliable if they have been well cared for.
Even Go HONDA S2K 03/04/05 model.....
All the best of luck, and let the force be with you ;)
cheers!
chris