thing is, i didnt do anything to my headlights lol. how gay. GAH~~!! well i guess its gonna be mentioned at the dealer when i go service my car. 2500kms to go.
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thing is, i didnt do anything to my headlights lol. how gay. GAH~~!! well i guess its gonna be mentioned at the dealer when i go service my car. 2500kms to go.
Call them up now and let them know. Since yours is an 07 and still very new, they might give you new headlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by r-r-redEuro
I took my car in for service last month, and yeah they added some clips to stop the water from getting into the headlight. It's on my service reciept as a recall.
oh really ? they actually replace the whole headlight ? i thought it was just repair add some chips or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
They put some clips on mine like 5 months ago. After the recent rains in Sydney, my headlights still fog up even with the clips in place...
They added the clips to mine as well, but I still got fogging during heavy rains. Oh well, at least they tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by Min988
this week is torture, i got exam tommorow morning, an assignment due in the afternoon, wednesday and thursday i got both 40% case studies due omgomg. my headlight is getting worse :(
The clips are just a preventative measure. They don't do much if you already have fogging. There were a few people who brought their car in, had the dealer try to dry out the moisture but it still came back. Second time around, the headlights were replaced instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by r-r-redEuro
Yeah I had both headlights replaced on mine a couple of months ago after the clips failed to stop them fogging up.Dealer had no problem replacing them.
Mine got foggy last night, booked in at Southport to get its 50k service and both the headlight clips and fuel relay issues sorted.
had the headlights (with clips) replaced a couple of weeks ago, passenger side got some moisture in it again a couple of days ago, but its cleared up now, booked in for them to have another go at it.... sigh.
i just developed the consensation in the passenger side head light. I've got the car booked in for the clips. See how it goes?????????
I had my car booked in today to fix the headlight. They told me the clips would only take half an hour, so i waited around. After 5 minutes, the service guy came out and told me that my 2007 lux, already had the clips fitted. i bought the car brand new so they must be fitting them at the factory. Anyway they fitted a brand new headlamp assembly. Which is a much better result.
on sunday i went to car wash to wash my car then when i went home, park my car i realised both of my headlights were foggy. mine is 03 lux model. my question is if i take to honda dealer to fix it how much would it cost? and what is the best dealer to go? or any other option to fix it?
HA should fix it as a goodwill gesture as it's a well known fault.Mention the postings here to the service guy.I go to Collins Honda at Rockdale.They've always been reasonable with warranty issues to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kupang
well with this crappy weather, ive seemed to have condensation in both my headlights again.
and upon closer inspection of my right headlight there seems to be a dead fly in there. its my new pet!
Aaah, the ever elusive headlight fluid has finally been captured on film!!:wave: Give David Attenborough a call to document it, quick!:wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by learner
I bought a new accord Euro in October last year and had to get a headlight sent over from Japan due to this problem...First noticed it when my HID wasn't working. But all fixed now. Thanks Honda!
Would my headlights be still under warranty if i had to get mine replaced due to an accident
I'd say thats more of an insurance claim than a warrenty issue
i had same issue and the deal is replacing the headlight next week.
it looks like very common prob with euro, cuz the dealer didn't hesitate ordering new headlight for me.
my headlight went the other day.
fuse was fried.. im blaming it on the condensation.. AGAINNNNNN...
ive just bought myself an april 04 euro luxury yesterday, done only 35000ks and obviously outside of warranty.
the front drivers headlight has condensation in it (rained for the first time in months in perth last week) but it hasnt dried out on the 5hr drive home through the scorching desert heat today.
what is the best option for repair, considering its outside of warranty (the local honda dealer is only 300m from where i live, but from all reports are twats.. my folks bought a brand new territory from there as they are ford dealers as well, and had nothing but trouble with the service dept)
ive just taken the back covers off on the headlight (the part where you change the light bulbs), the condensation seems to have dissapeared, might be because its stopped raining. give it a go, might work.
still getting them replaced tomorrow though..
rofl, you call that headlight condensation? This is headlight condensation!!Quote:
Originally Posted by KWICKS
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The clips fitted by Honda are a service CAMPAIGN fitted to certain Accord Euro models within a particular VIN range. The 2007 model Honda Accord Euro's are not affected.
This headlight SHOULD be replaced.
If the fog/condensation does not improve; Honda should replace these. See your servicing dealer and get the headlight inspected.
Say you are aware of the "5HL campaign" and that since the campaign was carried out - there has been NO improvement and demand an inspection by the service manager. The reason for an inspection is to prove the headlight assembly has not been tampered in any way (weither it's been in an accident etc etc). If they fail to replace/properley diagnose the headlight - call Honda Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by assailant
i googled '5HL campaign' but couldnt find anything.
i checked recalls.gov.au but only the boot wiring harness '5ka campaign' was listed, nothing regarding the headlights.
would the honda dealership be obligated to replace the headlight even though the car is outside warranty (04 model)
is there a definitive list of affected vehicles that honda repair?
the auto electrician who is currently replacing the front passenger door lock told the mrs the front bumper needs to be removed by a panel beater before they can replace the light.
sounds like absolute bs to me, cant be that hard to remove the bumper. if the monkeys at the dealership can do it, i dont see why this monkey of an auto electrician cant do it.
Honda replaced both my headlights last year no questions asked after fitting the clips which failed to stop the condensation building up and my lux is an 03 model.Read my reply earlier in this post.
ah righto, i did see your post but didnt take notice that yours is an 03.
well thats very interesting indeed. im not sure what these clips look like, ive had a look under the bonnet but there doesnt appear to be anything clip looking.
ill try the only local dealer (who have a solid reputation for being absolute pr|cks) and see what they have to say.
ps. does anyone have a link to, or can provide, pictures of the headlight clips?
thanks for your help all.
ive been trying to get my headlights replaced, and ive spoken to my dealer.
I was told that Honda issued a bulletin stating that any Euro with condensation issues were to be tested, and if there is mild to minor condensation they will not replace the headlight.
I'm not sure what they do, but I was told they stick a hose in the headlight, and purposly create condensation
Are they just pulling my leg?
How do they test for condensation? It's either there or it's not. They can't fix something that's not there.
I don't get the hose part. Why would they want to create condensation?
ive booked my euro in for a service next week while im in perth at the same honda specialist it was last serviced at by the first owner (9000ks ago) and i mentioned the moisture issue to the mechanic... he said he wasnt aware of any issue but he would speak to the dealer.
what kind of honda specialist hasnt heard of this moisture in euro headlight issue?
wondering if i should ring honda australia and ask them if they will cover it.
a honda specialist is just that, a company who specializes in honda. they do not have actual support from honda australia unlike honda dealers.
if im not wrong, you deal with auto extra in geraldton??
water entry into the headlight is a honda warranty campaign. 5hl is honda's code only.
there's a part number to it, just cant remember of the top of my head. you cant buy this part, simply cause its a warranty issue. dont quote me on it, but im pretty sure u can take it into a honda dealer to get it rectified. even if ur car is out of warranty, the part is only wat, $10 or something. dirt cheap. nice easy simple fix.
hope that helps.
The part number is 06336 SEA 305.
The problem you'll find is, the part isnt easily ordered, you have to submit a VIN number, and the corresponding campaign number (5HL) into Hondanet, and then they issue the dealer with the parts, but only if the VIN is applicable to that campaign.
It is not a part that can be ordered by itself through normal ordering channels or methods.
And we've seen plenty of euro headlights with the campaign done that still have moisture in the headlight.
The part is just a metal crimp clip that you can buy from an auto parts store........... Honda does not make the clips, they buy it from a supplier. So you can source it from places other than the dealer.
yeh get it fix,
damn had my euro for 5years and havent had the moisture problem in the headlights.
sounds like it was a common problem with the newer models.
Quote:
Originally Posted by eg_08_wa
im having it serviced while im in perth next week. the honda specialist is honmaz in nedlands (only going there because they were the ones to service it the last 3 times)
there is a honda dealer in geraldton, they are also the ford, nissan and hyundai dealer, but i wouldnt trust my car there..
just wondering, I'd like to change my stock light-bulb with Crystal vision, will this condensation issue appear because of that?
It will appear if you change it on a cold night when it is raining and you are outdoors. LOL. Been there, done that. So wait for a warm dry day before you change bulbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pxrnm
Wow talked about fast reply!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by assailant
Given the right circumstances, (and depending on the level of customer service from the dealer) i dont see why you wont be able to wait/watch whilst they install the clips for you. its a 5 minute job, see it all the time at the dealership i work in, so yeah, you may get lucky??
hey guys i had a condensation issue with both my lights they were both very very bad the light bulbs and so on will not cause this it is a factory defect, mine was so bad i made honda replace it with brand spanking new front lights the whole piece and my car was 2 years out of warantee mak sure if any1 has that problem keep buggin them andu will get your way guys because it is their problem but they should kindly fix the problem for u they did in my case
thinking i should be taking my car to the dealer for the service.. <_<
*update*
honda specialist mechanic 'honmaz' serviced my car but informed me that only honda dealers were authorised to fit the headlight clips.
they suggested i just get the local dealer to do it (might have to stand there and watch them, dont trust them not to ding my car) and if the clips dont work, they suggest i push for a replacement headlight.. all of which should be free.
in other news, the trip home from perth i did 396kms between filling up and used 27L... not bad economy! (love the 25c/L cheaper fuel in perth)
Aaronng (or anyone else) is this gap between the bumper and the headlights normal? I have a gap of about 4mm on the passenger side but a normal snug fit on the driver's side. I have never had the water in the headlights issue but is this gap a problem or could it get worse?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Thanks.
which reminds me...
reluctantly booked my car in to the local honda dealer (midwest auto group, aka dodgy brother's) and the mrs took it in her lunch break..
when the apprentice told her it was ready to go she asked about the moisture still inside the headlight and why it hadnt been dried out before the clips were fitted .. he tried to fob her off, but her pushing the issue alerted a senior mechanic to come have a look and he assessed the headlight as being too far gone for the clips to effective and instructed the apprentice to order a new headlight.
happy days!
i have a slight gap on the lefthand sid eof my euro bumper/headlight... but my euro was in a small accident lol so not sure whether thats the cause...Quote:
Originally Posted by unity
having said that, the bumper being lower than the light will have nothing to do with the headlight getting moisture, theyre two completly different parts :thumbsup: the bumper acutally hangs off/clips onto a metal bracket bolted under the light, maybe if u bend that up a abit itll sit perfect! :D
Dammit Dammit Dammit! I got mist on my passenger lights. I'm past warrenty and have installed HID's!
Not as bad as the pics that have been posted. I'll give it a few days and hope for the best. Strip out HIDs and borrow dust caps and take it back to dealership even after warrenty? Anyone who's been in the same position successfully got them replaced AFTER warranty??
Sorry to revive this thread again :p
i had mine replaced after warranty, only just recently.
mines a lux with factory hids though, so not exactly same position as you
yeah same i had mine replaced out of warrantee for 3 years!! and they still covered me just 300 labour brand new lights
I've recently had both my front headlamps replaced about 3 months ago due to moisture, and now there both fogging up.. AGAIN, (2006 standard)
I'm not too sure what to do, i don't want to go back and forth to the dealer every few months to get the headlights replaced.
Is there anything else i can do to stop them from fogging up again, and does anybody know what the culprit part of the headlight that is actually letting the water in?
Cheers.
I don't think you have much choice but to go back to the dealer.It's not your fault that they fogged up again.Quote:
Originally Posted by tknova
sorry to bring this thread up again..
but i brought my euro into burswood honda today and tried to get a replacement unit.
i bought this car over from a business and over the last few weeks when it rains ive realised it has had condensation collect in the headlight unit. Burswood honda was pretty good about it, however they had to confirm with honda australia if they will replace it. They confirmed with me that the campaign to fix up the unit has been doen 2 years ago, however it obviously hasnt worked (as per many of you fellow ozhonda members). Burswood Honda then told me that Honda Australia wouldnt fix it as its been 2 years and nothing was mentinoed since the campaign and its travelled many kms since then. I called the Honda Australia line to try and see if i could get anything out of this, however they refused. As it was a business car, i doubt anyone ever bothered to inspect the car properly, and it had a full service history with Burswood.
Anyone have any ideas on what I could do regarding this?
The guy at Honda Australia advised that I cant assume that it wasnt fixed as I didnt own the car previously as there was no complaints after the campaign. I advised many people has had the campaign with no fix. He advised thats entirely my own assumptions and opinions etc.
Anyone have any ideas on what I could do?
Thanks
I have a 2003 Euro, about 12 months ago they had the car one day to do the brake pads, which was when I got told about the headlight clips. It was classed as a warranty job (how it hadn't been picked up beforehand I don't know) which they did for free. But I had never had an issue with condensation in the headlights until the particular dealership changed the clips. Your dealer should be able to put it through to Honda as a warranty job. The 'campaign' claim is a load of crap, I know for a fact that Ford service centres still call warranty jobs on older models such as AU's ( I used to work for them) even if they were called years ago.
If the dealer won't/can't replace the clips at least, try and take it to another service centre if there is one nearby.
..it wasn't the dealer..the dealer agreed condensation was getting in. it was honda australia!
Well, similarly to all our Euros here, my 07 Ltd Ed has got that problem in the passenger light as well. Unfortunately I too have got my dust covers drilled and HIDs installed. Tomorrow I'll try the silica sachel solution which I believe a lot of dealers use, and see how we go. If not, it looks like I'll have to do the "return to stock" method.
Hmm, Seem to be getting water in my headlight now... 06 euro... I got drilled dust covers as well, will removing the headlight and sealing up the holes air-tight fix the issue? As in, will the evaporation be effective enough to remove all the water in the headlight after i've sealed it?
Anyone with other solutions for stopping the water with headlights with drilled dustcaps that were effective? Any idea's would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Sorry to dig up this thread but I was wondering if I could get some thoughts from people who have experience with this problem.
I bought my 06 Euro sport from New world honda 3 weeks ago and within a day the drivers side headlamp had gathered moisture....
Contacted the dealer and they had a look at it before telling me that, and I quote, 'we talked to our roadworthy guy and he said that moisture in the headlamp is permissible as long as there isn't water pooling at the bottom, its common with the euros'
I agreed to a 1 year statutory warranty with these guys and am pretty set on having this fixed by them, any thoughts on how to go about it? Because currently, they are not at all keen to do anything about it.
Water leaking into the headlights is not acceptable. It could cause corrosion or premature failure of bulbs. You should not take no for an answer, they should fix that under warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by aroy7
If they continue to give you grief, you could try taking it to Honda and seeing if they will fix it for free for you before you take the unscrupulous dealer to fair trading. But they will probably just throw a bag of desiccant in there to absorb the moisture, which is a temporary fix at best...
- HZ
There are many mediums you can contact if you are dissatisfied with their service.
If they're a licensed Honda dealer, then you can contact Honda head office directly (1800 804 954 to the head office 24 hour toll free) or there are also NSW Fair Trading and the ACCC. =]
wasnt it a recall issue?
i had mine replaced by a honda dealer well outside of the 3 year warranty period, try that angle
It was on some 04/05 cars I think, the dealer said mine was not affected as it is the facelift model...I'm going in on friday to discuss this.
Hey guys, I Just discovered this problem today on my 03 euro, first time I see it. do you think if I go to the dealer this week they'll do anything about it? or is it too late now? the car is 8 years old now so way outside the warranty period.
I Have an 03 Euro aswell, Can you Let me Know how it goes as im going to get my power steering house replaced through the recall in about 2 weeks and if i could get that fixed up aswell it would be greatQuote:
Originally Posted by [SDCTVE]
Hey Mate, Honda was no help, apparently that recall has been done already, what they do is change the clips of the headlights. and on their system it was done in 2006 on my car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asho
according to honda there has been 3 recalls for our model
power steering hose
wiring loom for rear tail lights and reverse lights
and headlight clips for front drivers side headlight.
they told me that they only fix it once, if the problem comes back i need to buy a new headlight housing which is $560 or something like that.
it kinda didn't make sense to me why they'd only change the clips on the recall and not change the whole headlight?
More than Likely to Save Costs,Quote:
Originally Posted by [SDCTVE]
so does that mean that Recall has been finished and cant be claimed or is it just your car?
thanks for letting me know
No, it still can be claimed if it hasn't been done on your car yet, but they only perform the recall once, if the problem comes back they wont fix it again, which kinda sucks. anyway go to your local honda dealer and it should all be on their system, that's what I did.