If I want to believe unicorns exist, they exist. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renaissance_x
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If I want to believe unicorns exist, they exist. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renaissance_x
I completely agree you are increasing the danger. But as oxer tried to put it... you casually do many things that expose you to increased danger, but think nothing of it because the likelihood of the incident occurring is so small. When you assess any risk, the likelihood of an incident must be a factor. What your suggesting is that it is Very likely that a blowout will occur and that when it does, there will be dire consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
An example that some may relate to here:
The speed limit of a road is 80km/h, i assess the conditions of the road(no debris, no adverse weather, no traffic ect) and based on my previous experience believe it is safe to drive at 100km/h. While it is true that i have increased my risk, i strongly believe that the increase in risk to safety is negligible. If i am not the only one to come to similar conclusions, why is the speed limit set at 80km/h? Is it possibly because the speed limit is set for ALL conditions? Is it to ensure that when things are not ideal, that it is still safe and there will not be a multitude of crashes? Why is it unreasonable for someone to think that they are able to assess the conditions (and thus speed) themselves? Probably due to liability (eg, why was i permitted to travel at a speed that was deemed unsafe when the conditions worsened)
Similarly with the tyre size applications.. how much of that is safety and how much of that is saving their own arse? If i was to stretch the tyres but change my driving habits to accommodate for it... would that be an effective countermeasure to try and control the risk? Or are we saying:
'NUP, blanket ban!!! It is not possible to drive a vehicle on stretched tyres safely regardless of what measures you put in place."
"NUP! Everything that ever touches a powerpoint needs to be tested, and tagged and maintenance records kept... even in your own home. No excuses."
Personally, i think the way safety is managed in australia is too reliant on the systems. While it may be better than a majority of other nations, common sense has nearly been thrown out the window and theres a culture of blind faith in the systems and standards. Im suggesting that the rules should be more accommodating, but a culture shift needs to occur where people consider and take responsibility for their own and other peoples safety.
EG: I've got stretched tyres. Maybe its a good idea for me not to drive around putting load on the sidewalls because they arent designed to be used in that way... Lets be careful going over bumpy roads, ill keep additional distance from other cars because something might happen to my tyres... Sure youve introduced unnecessary danger, but is it risk worth the reward?
If you havent noticed, i have a strong dislike for taking responsibility away from people (even if it does decerse risk). IMO, it breeds a culture of complacency.. Oh ill just follow the rues and nothing can ever go wrong, so ill never ever check anything and just blame the system when things do go wrong.
And if one was to argue that a god did exist but had no impact on anything a human could notice... practically the 'truth' may be that the god doesnt exisist, but it is not the "certain" truth. Certainty is a PITA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renaissance_x
They might* exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
This is the general problem with certainty... How can you be sure that is air you are breathing? Mistro Descrates hit it on the head pretty well in the 17th century, the only thing you can be certain of is your own existence.
In a sense I agree with you on the risk part chernobyl, but in this case i think the issue is the degree of stretch.
To put it into your example, yes you take a light risk by going 100 in an 80 zone, but the likelyhood of an accident is only small. However if you were to go faster, the likelyhood becomes higher and higher as you push further past the boundaries.
A small amount of stretch (i.e. a 195 tyre on a 8" wheel) is probably not going to cause problems. But if you were stretching that tyre onto a 9" or even 9.5" wheel you are pushing further and further beyond the boundaries, and increasing the chances of something going wrong.
OP is using a 6.5-7" wide tyre on a 9" wheel. It does not surprise me that he is having issues.
That's what gets me all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Thinking everything is just my imagination.
Shiiiiiit.
op still here mate, don't say i died, i just dont want to keep replying to people like you mate, since you assumed i was dead, thats why i responded, wishing death upon people isnt funny mate, if you dont have anything to say about the stretch tire/ air leaks/ safety issues with the stretch tires, keep your comments to ya self... FYI ive got rid of the wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
good shit
good info here guise.
basicly op look at over stretching tyres the same way you would look at piking up dirty ass whores, sure you may go ages before you get the clap/the burn/shanghi special but if/when you do will it have been worth it?
dont be cheap kunt7, sell your tofu and dim sim and buy normal size tyre
You have made an excellent decision :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by tom_son
What you got planned for the next set?
I think the main issue you had was your sidewall was too short. Heaps of guys in the toyota scene run 185 60 14 on 9" rims and dont have issues. Not recommending it or anything. 45 profile sidewalls are too stiff to stretch.
lmao at oxers bfs ^^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
funny the lengths people goto to look cool, to the point where you turn into a pyromaniac on the side of the road making a potato cannon out of a wheel and tyre.
If these morons at very least used a bead blaster to mount that stupid tyre on that stupid rim IN THE BEGINNING they definately wouldn't have been on the side of the road there spraying flammable liquids on pieces of rubber.
Once your sidewalls are stretched beyond straight, its not safe, full stop.
Has anyone seen how most modern tyres are made? The rubber in the sidewall is VERY different in composition to the tread and the steel reinforcement from outside in changes completely.
Stretched tyres might look cool, but they should only be fitted to be rolled on, not to be cornered or accelerated hard on.
All you need is for the outside lip of your rim (that isn't protected by the RIM PROTECTOR anymore because your tyres are stretched like a b1tch) to merely roll over any stone that is the size of a golf ball or bigger and one or more of the following things will happen:
(I'm not even mentioning hitting a pothole or bump too hard... because just doing lightly that will squeeze air out of the tyre for a split second. The bigger the rim is the more chance these things will be happening.)
- Bulge in the sidewall due to the stone separating the woven steel reinforcement
- Split in the sidewall which will cause the whole sidewall to separate from the bead like on that gay blue toyota
- Rim will press the stone into the road and give you a nice buckle and if your rims are sh1t enough they will crack instead and piss air out while you look around at other motorists in disbelief while they laugh at you and your Wakaba leaf decal on your rear 1/4 window.
http://www.abbsrytire.com/tirepiccc333.gif
IF YOU NEED TO PUT UNDERSIZED AND UNDER LOAD RATED TYRES ON YOUR CAR TO GET THEM TO FIT;
MODIFYING CARS... YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG KILL YOURSELF while I pass you sideways in 3rd gear with 315's, barely -1 and one hand out the window giving you the finger because my car actually handles without the risk of the tyres falling off.
It is very easy to have a lot of fun in life, especially with cars if you choose to exercise a little common sense from time to time.
P.S. In response to people speaking about road rules and why speed limits are the way they are and don't change according to conditions etc.
Don't be naive, the government doesn't care how fast you go or what you do to your car... they just don't want to pay to be removing dead bodies off the road all day when they could be setting imaginary "safety" parameters and cashing in on it when people don't abide exactly by them and get caught doing so.
the speeding esxample is just that, an example. Not at all what i think :P
And there is one BIG problem with your argument. You are saying saying modifying for asthetics is "wrong". I know a few people who are much much much more interested in modifying a car with little/no interest in Driving it. IE, driving is not fun for them but they enjoy making cars 'look tough' (subjective term dont go spaz at it 'looking stupid').
What would be wrong is doing these sorts of things and expecting to be able to push the car hard, or even drive it normally.
The other thing that would be rong is to assume that using the tyres in this way will NOT lead to the above problems.... again, i know people who are willing to live with replacing tyres over a small amount of distance covered... why? Because they dont really cover much/any distance in them at all.
Just replace the word "unicorns" with "god" and this post would sum up religion in a nutshell.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
Dude.... I can put a dress on and wear it in public out for "aesthetic reasons" doesn't mean it's not horribly wrong.
This is probably the best analogy I can come up with right now...
Putting stretched tyres on your car is like refining your own 80 octane fuel and then using it for a major disadvantage over ready to go 98oct from the pump purely for bragging rights.
It might not necessarily be a dangerous thing to do under certain conditions with a responsible and cluey person, but it doesn't mean that it is not a completely idiotic thing to do none the less.
So... stretched tyres...
Do they look better though? For the purpose of aesthetics? That is completely a matter of opinion, which everyone is entitled to. Who am I or you to judge what looks good and what doesn't look good? That obviously comes down to the owner.
Do they make a car handle better? No
Do they make a car more comfortable? No
Do they help your car stop quicker? No
Do they help you increase your chances of avoiding a collision? No
So they aren't not safer? No
Well they must last longer? No
Well if they don't last longer they must cheaper to maintain/replace? Obviously not.
How about a QUALITY upgrade of the wheel and tyre combination for a car
Do they make a car handle better? Yes
Do they make a car more comfortable? Yes
Do they help your car stop quicker? Yes
Do they help you increase your chances of avoiding a collision? Yes
So, properly matched wheels and tyres to a vehicle increases it's safety? Yes
Well they must last longer too now? Obviously.
Now that they are lasting longer, they must be more expensive to maintain or replace right? No. Unless you are getting free ling longs and are changing them like jocks.
Guise please
Did Justin Fox run stretched tyres and you lot want to be cool too or something ?
Why are people defending running stretched tyres ? Lol
If you aren't a African American with a Chevy from the 90's on hydraulics - you simply look like a douche and are endangering your life. Fact is your car will handle shit , tyres will not last long and in any given situation on the road you are asking for trouble.
I don't agree at all. If someone wants to do something and are aware of the consequences/issues with it, then i think they should be able to do it. If i consider it a stupid thing to do is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickk
Benji, im not defending running stretched tyres, im defending ones freedom to do so ( I still do think its not a good idea).
If someone wants to do a dive off a bridge from 500m up, ill just ask them if they understand they could die if things go wrong and that its likely to go wrong... after that, im happy to let them jump. Their choice is their choice.
You are right that people have freedom to choose to do so , but in this instance the act is illegal and generally not accepted.
I don't think you should defend peoples right to choose in this situation lol.
But their freedom to do so shouldn't be on public roads where they're potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
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Originally Posted by bennjamin
See, i dont care what the law/popluar opinion says, i care that the person is free to do the things he wishes. I have no problems with punishment, but i dont like the idea of prevention.... the effectiveness doesnt really matter much to me. Clearly im idealistic nad dont put as much value on human life as most others. (Dont wnat people to die, but i fail to see how 'life' matters so have difficulty understanding why its important to NOT die... if that makes sense)Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
In reference to this thread, i have on problems with people saying that running stretched tyres is stupid. I have problems with you calling someone stupid for running stretched tyres.
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Originally Posted by bennjamin
See, i dont care what the law/popluar opinion says, i care that the person is free to do the things he wishes. I have no problems with punishment, but i dont like the idea of prevention.... the effectiveness doesnt really matter much to me. Clearly im idealistic nad dont put as much value on human life as most others. (Dont wnat people to die, but i fail to see how 'life' matters so have difficulty understanding why its important to NOT die... if that makes sense)Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
In reference to this thread, i have on problems with people saying that running stretched tyres is stupid. I have problems with you calling someone stupid for running stretched tyres.
That doesn't give anyone the right to again be on public roads where they're potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Just because you don't value life, doesn't mean everyone else thinks the same as you.
And im saying you or anyone else dont have the right tell me what is acceptable/not... so yes, im saying all laws are bogus and that everyone has the right to do everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
Just because the majority believe something (eg. life is valuable) doesnt mean it is right.... The majority of people thought the earth was flat and they were wrong no?
I will only accept something that is universal. Even if it is true in 99.99% of cases, i wont accept it. The fact i am ABLE to disagree on a topic means that neither standpoint is correct. (i am not able to disagree on running stretched tyres being more dangerous, only the results of that danger; hence the truth is, runing stretched tyres is more dangerous.)
We have fundamentally different viewpoints that are incompatible, i think this is time to either make a new thread about it or for both(all three) of us to accept it.
What i will not accept is someone else calling someone else stupid, or what they did was wrong whne its a completely subjective topic... ie that Danger is bad; think for a moment of the good points of danger before responding with something like "nah mate, id like to live in a world with 0 risk, where nobody dies and there is nothing to do". sounds more like hell to me, An eternity of pointlessness.
I'm not willing to accept a narrow-minded view that the public should be at risk because someone such as yourself wishes to run their vehicle in a manner which is potentially endangering everyone/everything around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
But I won't be replying to you anymore, you're either a troll, or someone who is incredibly self-absorbed, self-centred and a menace to those whom are unfortunate enough to be in the same vicinity as yourself.
Good guy mcQuote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
Have you been in a car when the tyre has shredded...? Not cool man
Especially having absurd amounts of stretch
Does that mean this Chernoby1 guy should neck himself? If he doesn't value life...
Tell you what, have a child/son/daughter then come back and say you don't value human life
Because i will hurt anyone that endangers my child
And all you do is want to argue a point - because you can?
/sigh
Im saying that thy should have the option to potentially endanger everyone/everything around them, BUT i would much prefer them not to. I call it "trusting humanity"Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
And dont assume i would actually DO the things that i am arguing for others to have the freedom of doing: If i defend the right of people to be gay, that doesnt mean im gay myself now does it.
I hope you can understand my view point but if you cant, theres no point responding. The only reason i am responding is to try and clear up some confusion you have about me.
Never been in a car thats shredded a tire, but have been in many that have had them go pop (while overseas mainly on shitty roads, third world spec)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasemas
And trust me, ive considered suicide many times but it is just as pointless as living. The difference is that maybe i am wrong (and i am hoping i am), but there is no way to come back from the dead so not worth that risk. (If you havent guessed it, i value meaning and freedom most, survival is minimal.. unless it is a part of meaning).
The kid thing, nope, never had a kid. Never really had a pet or tbh anyone/thing ive ever been comfortable enough with to even share emotions with (family included). I agree completely that having a kid or basically anyone i care about would change my perspective of life and would go so far as to say i crave such intimacy... but even when people do want to, i never am able to let them in (im not 'loner', but i keep everyone/thing at arms length). If youre wondering why, it's because i know/believe it will be detrimental to their life and/or happiness if i was to become a 'central role'.
As for arguing, i do it to learn and am hoping that one day someone will able to show me why my beliefs are wrong. I will take any opportunity to challenge my beliefs regardless how unrelated it might seem on the surface (youd be surprised how many problems are fundementally the same 'issue')
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So anyway back to tyres
Hahaha appropriate face is appropriate. :)
I think the OP got the message as did *most* other people ;)
a. you dont have a RIGHT to be on the roads, its a privilege..that we all pay for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
b. the government has the right to tell you whats acceptable as part of those licensing conditions.
c. i think we watch to much American tv where everyone has the right to talk like an idiot, be wrong, have guns etc etc because its protected by thier constitution but in Australia we dont operate under the U.S constitution so here you dont have the RIGHT to say/do what you want to the same degree, we just alow people to be idiotic cause we are nice.
d. interestingly enough the hypothetical man in a dress you brought up before has every right to be in the dress, op however dosnt have the right to endanger the rest of us with your car.
You must buy Daveho1 a drink before groping his anoose again.
potatoes aye
Clearly you ave misunderstood what i am saying. I am suggesting that the entire system is wrong. The law/government/society should not be telling me what is my rights. The fact that they are deciding what my rights are is in my opinion wrong.
In the world im imagining in my head i think that it is wrong of the government to not allow everyone on the roads. I accept that fatalities will go up initially, but i believe that after a few generations, they will start coming down, even without any forms of laws/restrictions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
I believe that them telling em what is acceptable and is not is a fundemental breach to my rights, not as an australian raod user;citizen/ect, but as a human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
Am well aware of the differences between aus/us but you mentioned something that is an intense issue. I dont hve the right to do something i believe to be correct/fair/just, just because the majority think it is the incorrect thing to do. I think this violates my rights as a human being.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
Again, the limitations presented limit my freedoms which, as a human being, i find 'wrong'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
Who has outlined what my rights should be as a human being? Many people. All of thetime. Who is correct? None of them / all of them, my own personal belief is that human rights are decided by each individual person and that many of them will conflict so all of them must be his right. If you are disagreeing with that statement, what you are saying is people should not have the freedom to think different and that people should be punished for thought crimes.
this thread has gone from bad to potato.
i somewhat agree with chernoby1, lol, people do have a freedom of thought and speech, until somebody gets killed as a direct result of a stretch tyre then we cant really punish them or tell them that you can't do it. yeah i know its wrong and unsafe and putting other road users in danger, but thats not a big enough risk to stop people from doing it. as for my next set lol i have 15x8 with 195/45 on them. wrong size tires on my wheels, https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...O8DkDdDPCEI-OQ
^hahahaha. Should probably make a group for us potatoes.
great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
dont think it'll get through to the potatoes though.
Kinda hard when the potatoes believe Anarchism is better than any form of government.Quote:
Originally Posted by u mad?
http://www.coffee-monster.com/wp-con...onceivable.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
I'm fairly certain i know the meaning. I hope you arent being confused between Anarchy and Anarchism as a philosophy...
5charQuote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Going back to the certainty conundrum?
Let me rephrase then: I beleive i know the meaning of the word/idea Anarchism. Or do you want to to specifically state that i was talking about my preference of Individualist anarchism?
lol there's nothing wrong with Anarchism. Definitely better than stretched tires.
alcohol should be completely outlawed as it is the leading cause in road fatalities.
Then fast food should also be completely outlawed since it is the leading cause in high fat in most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oxer
That supports Oxers argument...
Alcohol/fast food are not banned even though they are "dangerous" and he's saying that stretched tyres fit in that same category of "danger is present, but the likelyhood of a serious consequence is very low when the correct procudures are followed." Ie, if drinking do not drive. Do not consume copious amounts of fast food. Ect.
I haven't been reading the thread, but now you are saying that Oxer is saying that stretched tyres are dangerous? Wasn't he supporting the claim that stretched tyres are not dangerous?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Nah I wouldn't say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
i like alcohol, fast food and stretched tires :$
He was being 100% sarcastic in that last comment :PQuote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/332228864/h0995F5D7/Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
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Originally Posted by Chernoby1
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-g...4/teamwork.jpg
yeah good idea guys, ban all things that can have a negative effect on anything.
or just dont be a dum kunt or be smart and informed and;
1. dont drink and drive or dont drink at all
2.have fast food in moderation or not at all
3. put apropriate tires on your car...
4. If not having appropriate tires, drive carefully to avoid increasing the chance of tyre failure?Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
EG: When driving with semi slicks on the street, driving in the wet requires care. Or should that be made illegal too because Melbourne has temperamental weather?
Also, somewhat related, why is it a illegal for me to drive a vehicle without functioning headlights even when they are not necessary to use in the conditions i am driving in?
I have always had a problem with that :<
Defected coz i had headlight covers on in broad daylight. #potato.
Fixed to suit your theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daveho1
Considering all the talk, that car looks like it survived fine with the tyre coming off.
What are you talking about? Thats how its ment to sit.....lol j/k
The tyre should never come off like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Are you literally retarded?
Let me repeat: What was the damage caused because the tyre came off? I see NONE. Maybe the cost of a tow home, but from the image, looks to me like he got the car to a standstill without damaging/hurting anything/one.
To make it clear, Talking about this SPECIFIC image and trying to point out how posting it doesnt really prove anything at all to someone like me/oxer/other potatoes.
It's like trying to convince me not running an air filter is going to hurt someone. Sure the likelyhood of some shite getting into my engine and making it blow are high, but the chances of an engine blow hurting someone is remarkably low... especially if the person driving the vehicle has the idea that they may need to disengage the clutch at any time.
Note that i normally wouldnt put, but seems i will have ot otherwise you will all assume i am a mega potato: I have and never will run a car without a filter.
Where is THE FRONT BUMPER?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
" Incidentally, the reason it’s unsafe is that, when tires are mounted on rims that are wider (or narrower) than the rim widths approved for the model and size tire, heat and stress can build up in the sidewall, leading to tire failure (either popping the bead or an actual blowout). The engineers and customer service staff of the tire manufacturers hear about this constantly, because users who “stretched” their tires then file claims under warranty. These claims are then denied by the tire manufacturers as a matter of user error (improper usage), and the customers get ticked off and then start fighting with the tire store that mounted them (even though any conscientious tire store will refuse to mount the tires on rims that are too wide). Talk to the folks from the tire manufacturers and watch them roll their eyes at the mere mention of “tire stretching”, because they’ve already dealt with so many cases where the tires failed as a result.
This is NOT a matter of opinion; it’s a matter of fact. Tires can, and do, commonly fail as a result of mounting on wheels that are too wide. DON’T DO IT."
Taken off for the photo?Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
Nothing looks bent broken. And if all the damage is a front bumper, i wouldn't really care if i was the owner. It is just a front bumper.
You arent listening. I am NOT AT ALL disputing that tyre stretch leads to tyre failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
If people are going back to tyre manufacturers trying to claim it under warranty, they are potato.
If people are getting upset at the tyre mounter because the requested stretched tyre failed, they are potato.
If people are yelling at tyre shops because they wont install stretched tyres, they are potato.
My comments ALL have revolved around:
The problems with TYRE FAILURE.
Not whether or not stretch increases the chance of it happening. but the CONSEQUENCES of TYRE FAILURE. I am also arguing that if you are aware that tyre failure is likely to occur because of the stretching, you will also be more likely to take CARE while driving so that WHEN it does go pop, you are ready and can handle the situation Safely; or as safely as possible.
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Originally Posted by Chernoby1
Sorry mate but no one is listening to you due to your negative , stubborn approach.
We all know the rules and this issue at hand is truly "stretching" them. No person is going to tell me that they kow they are breaking the law , and over stressing their cars safety - and then tell me they are ready to handle the situation. What a load of crap lol.
Stop pushing it you cant win !
.......... have you ever had a tyre pop on you? seriously. Youre all making it out as if any tyre failure leads to certain death. I have never and probably never will have stretched tyres but i have had tyres pop while doing 140ish km/h. Guess what happened? nothing. Have seen multiple cars pop tyres at similar speeds. Guess what happened? They pulled over and nothing. Punctures happeneing at lower speeds? Also nothing. Punctrure happening when guy in mountain pass driving hard? PRobably gonna result in a problem. Now i cant say there isnt a difference between a puncture and the tyre coming off altogether, but i have 0 evidence of what happens when the tyre comes off (which is incidentally what im asking for) so i base my judgment on a puncture.
As for my negativity, i am very open to other viewpoints. But all anyone on here seems to be saying is "running stretch is potato because danger." Now i have no problem with people not responding to my potatoedness, but everytime someone does respond to my question, they never answer it... it's as if they didnt read the question, only saw some one disputing something and start yelling "UGH ITS UNSAFE YOU POTATO".
By the issue at hand, im assuming you mean the original post? I have not been talking about that at all. Mainly because i thought it was resolved. OP learnt why his tyres were leaking and took action to fix it. I 'believe' noone has the right to call him a potato for his action. I guess i coudlve flagged the posts but i find the flagging function useless, mainly because the internet is the internet. If i start trying to force people to accept my views, that's a solid 100% fail imo.
As for the safety thing, My car for example doesnt have idle control. This is my choice because it makes me feel special. I have made the car more unsafe for the general public, yet because i am aware of the issue, i am able to safely (ie reduce the new risk, not eliminate it) drive the vehicle. With stretched tyres (because ive assumed the result of their failure is the same as a puncture) i would say that being prepared to pull over and not driving on a mountain road is you operating the vehicle as safely as possible. Im not sure ive made this part too clear but i hope you can see what im getting at. Yes, it is not as safe as before but the risk is reduced so it is not (in my opinion) completely unsafe.
As for what im pushing, i'm legit wondering what the consequences of the tyre coming off are. If someone was to say their wheels are only held on by lie 1-2 threads of the wheel nuts, yea, id have issues with that. Why? Because ive seen them fail and seen what happens when a brake digs into the concrete.
but....potato...
Cause drift car mate! Any drifters know that running stretched tires allow for easier to slide as there is less side wall movement and makes it easier to break traction because of the narrowness of the tire, and this is quite evident! Looks more like a Jzx100 mark 2 drift car on a track in japan, so this pik has no real relevance to the arguments being brought forward as its on a track/track car FYI ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmy_B
But im in no way condoning or supporting stretch tires, each to there own at the end of the day
you and all the people you have listed are very lucky peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Chernoby1
My friend had one pop on her, the force tipped her car and wrote it off
it can happen
hahaahaha, took me a second to ee what you did there :PQuote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
Hope she was fine afterwards!Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
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Stretched tires will.
Huh???????Quote:
Originally Posted by mugen_ctr
Tyres that dont fit the wheels seems to be the topic.. the picture is what I imagine the op wheel looked like after deflation. .
Sorry I didnt find a photo of a honda to make it 'relevant'
Sounds relevant to a dumb arse question..
Dont be so up tight
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