I got an email today saying pre-orders were being taken - has anyone done this?
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I got an email today saying pre-orders were being taken - has anyone done this?
I thought this wasn't happening for a couple of weeks.Besides i haven't seen pricing!.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by cleary
believe the email says "The final product's are very close to shipping, and a pre order will begin in a few weeks"
Looking promising :)
Yeah.Hope there's no more delays.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumped
I stand corrected :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumped
Yeah looks promising.
I need to see some pretty hard performance data before ordering. Im a bit reluctatnt to pre order as Im keen to hear some real world comments from users first after a few months.
Hope to see some dyno graphs etc soon.
good stuff
those exhuast look like some 3A muffler.....
I know this is an OLD thread but surely someone out there has some info on price and availibility ??? I cant wait to hear from ppl that get this and see some dyno figures... Cheers Gibbo...
Iv'e heard a group buy will be announced early Dec.Del and install approx. early Jan.Pricing:reflash'$1000,headers,$1200,ex.$1700,C AI,$400.approx.pricing should be better for group buy!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibbo
They redesigned the Intake and Headers, as the initial units that were made came back they were not happy with them. The redesigned units were sent back to be remade approx 1.5 weeks ago so the new design should be back soon.
Good to see some approx pricing. Was that exhaust price inclusive of the high flow cat? And do you know if these prices include all labour? Cheers yQuote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Yes it is inclusive with the CAT.
that's quite pricy for what they are
Yeah. It is a fair bit in total. Im im going to drop $4000 + then im going to trade and get a new car with more stock performance and potential. The headers seem the most expensive to me.
Hope we see some info soon as I really want to make my decision about getting a new lease or not. I test drove a Liberty B4 turbo ( 60 00kms manual) yesterday to replace the Euro but found the Euro to be a VASTLY superior car in almost everyway. I was shocked frankly how good the euro was next to a $55 000 car ( when new). Its only the extra power that even make the B4 worth looking at and that was underwhelming.
Pricing is approx.James gave me these prices but i forgot to write them down so am going by memory!Yes it does inc.cat but not labour.Main labour is with reflash.ECU keys and imobiliser has to be sent to Melb.reinstall,dyno and road tune.:(Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I was more thinking about the labour cost to fit the headers and exhaust. Obviously that costs something in time - just wondering whether that approx price includes fitment. Happy to wait and see if you don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
can you elaborate more on the install process please Peekay ?? I live in Mount Isa and there is just no way i could get the car down to melb. for a road tune and afford the hondata products as well... Would they also allow the DIY install of their products and still honour warranty etc.( Oh, Thanks for being the Test dummy for hondata :) we all appreciate the "extra mile" you and your euro have gone for us all..)
No,pretty certain it doesn't.Labour for exhaust +headers wouldn't be much(2hrs???)Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
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Originally Posted by Gibbo
Of course I don't see why they wouldn't. Thanks for your thanks it has been a long road with this very very long. Anyway should be good. Engine is more responsive I also have DC5 valve gears as well which also makes a big difference as well.
awesome! i really wanna know what sort of gains the extra 25 degrees of duration givesQuote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
Peekay34.What's involved with the DC5 valve gears?could you give us more info(cost,what was replaced etc.)......Thanks.
don't need hondata jtune!!!.....if u got one of these.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7zwYCZcaY
Bad link d00d.Quote:
Originally Posted by martizzle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7zwYCZcaYQuote:
Originally Posted by BiLL|z0r
sorry try again its really worth it, its someone in Japan thrashing a real euro-r.
man it goes hard :thumbsup:
this J-tune K24a will thrash that car, right Peekay?
that's just a stock euroR, right? wouldn't a honda tuned k24 beat it easily? :confused:
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Originally Posted by martizzle
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Originally Posted by tony1234
James did it ask him..... sorry I can't elaborate more. But I am running standard cams only with DC5 gear ...but you also need the Hondata ECU upgrade.
why would using DC5 running gear will need Hondata ECU upgrade
lol
Do you have reflash or ECU replacement???Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
the vtc mechanism is controled electronicly so with a dc5 valve gear youll need an ecu for it to have any affect...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
The ECU was reflashed.
^ yep, do you knwo the maximum degree of duration the flash allows for? In an article i think i read 45 degrees or so was safe for the k24
okay... actually any piggyback ecu will do the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
I've spoken to a few tuners and it's apparently not as simple as that.(don't ask me to explain why!!!!):confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
which piggyback can control the vtc mechanism?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
i was wondering the same thing
I am asking are there any exist. like the new HKS Fcon IS and E-manage UtlimateQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
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Originally Posted by TypeG
I don't think those 2 piggy back could run VTC tuning or have variable cams tuning. These piggy backs simply features air fuel ratio tuning plus ignition tuning and for the vtec car can adjust the vtec engagement point.:D
so far I found only EFi euro ecus, Motec M 400 or above series(optional to variable cams), Hondata K- Pro, and Hydra ems could run this variable cams tuning. If there is any piggy back could run this features would be very interesting.
for B series engine, ppl can change cam and value springs without tuning or without tuning with standalone ecu
why would Euro need that?
because the euro doesn't have a b series lol
the vtc mechanism is unique to i-vtec engines (its the i in i-vtec) not to mention dbw
With Euro, all you can do with a piggyback is change A/F ratios and vtec engagement point. That's it. You can't change timing nor VTC.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
ok that's clearQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
Euro-r in daytime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1NBYPap2cQQuote:
Originally Posted by BusterSonic12
Flash Vs Stock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyO-XP-ApTA
Ok - it is January 2007. Does anyone have any updates regarding the release of the J-tune packages? :)
.... sigh... so long
* 2 to that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BusterSonic12
all i want is the chip now... i dont care anymore about the other j-tune mods...im sure they will be great, im only intersted in the chip..
Hope its ready soon!!!!!!!!
Been waiting for ages :(
wats the odds that they will delay it until next year?
just looking around the hondattech website, not much activity..
it is the christmas period,
i would hazard a guess and say maybe end of jan or feb is when an announcment must be made.?
maybe they are waiting for 07 model ?
--edit -- Im also glad they didnt do a pre-order in november, I would have been fuming if i was still waiting now for it --
I'm guessing at least Feb 2007 before they release it.
WTF ??? This is crazy - It cant take this long to get a reflash for our car !!! Dude if they are waiting to release all the products together in the hope they will sell more, Tell 'em they're dreamin... We all have money and want it now!!! they are doing more harm than good for their product - I'm starting to have doubts that the reflash is reliable if it needs this many remaps. My 2 cents.
Like anything that needs developemnt it does take time but I do agree it is taking forever and with very few premature updates.
lol pumped - you have an 06 Euro so you haven't waited long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pumped
:p lol its almost a year old now, its been long enough :pQuote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Spoke to James mid Dec.He told me mid Jan.:(
*holds breath*
Yep he also told you back in September it would be a matter of weeks! I feel sorry for you guys getting stringed along. BUT "good things come to those who wait".Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
im hanging
Yeah im on the cusp of selling my euro to get a faster car but if the mods are decent I can keep it. Its hard to know what to do.
I know but i think it'll be worth the wait.150kw ATW sounds good to me.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by msnealo
don't know about you guys but the whole hondata thing for the euro has got me disinterested.
if it was ready the first time they said it would be ,fair enough but the all new euro will be out in about a year from now and we still have not got it.
i just hope the new 08 euro reflash doesn't take 3.5years to get to us.
I am prepared to wait a bit longer. I just pray the repeated misinformation about release dates is not an indication of what after sales service is going to be like. We will all be screwed if there are problems with the maps as 1. there is no other tuner out there who can reflash the stock ECU, 2. returning the ECU back to the stock map is not possible at the moment - not even dealers can do it. I am quietly confident it will work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
how is this ECU going????
is it finish yet....
waiting to get it asap......
let me know....
Yeah.I agree.James told me the ECU can be taken back to stock after the reflash.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I think you can flash it back to stage one but not stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Mmm.you may be right.I'll check with James when i speak to him next about how the JTUNE gear is going!Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
Update New Intake and Extractors have arrived....I have not seen them yet but I can only pray they are correct. With a bit of Luck this will be the end and the final product........
damn good to hear!!! let us know asap
Good news Peekay34.Please keep us updated.when you say the extractors have arrived do you mean both headers AND exhaust?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
I'm praying that all this extra research dosen't make the reflash beyond too many peoples budget. I think we are all in agreeance that it will be worth it and the critisim is probably meant to be more constructive (Any products down the track should just be "they will be out when they are out") Cant wait for it !!!!
Exhaust section has been complete for a long time the issue has been with the extractors.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
How does this stop the selling of the exhaust or chip ? or intake ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
this isnt a flame at you peekay, you know more than all of us about the issues that have happened..
my boss would shoot me if i was to say that A B C cant be released because A not ready even tho they all separate components.
they want to max the output in which each element may have to re-adjust when an element has been re-design.
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Originally Posted by adammet04
But the stage 1 and 2 reflash did not require the J-Tune bolt ons. So they could have sold the reflash for 1 and 2 quite a few months ago when it was announced the testing was finished. There are plenty of people who have no interest in pulling out an existing i/h/e setup.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
But, that said - if they offered 1 and 2 early that would possibly reduce sales of 3 and 4. I imagine there is a healthy margin in the bolt ons too.
Agreed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to a point..Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
i doubt offering would reduce sales of 3 and 4..there are plenty of people out there wanting an instant hit of power to their cars without bolt-ons (raises hand)..those wanting 3 and 4 would not really be settling with 1 and 2...
its like buildings , people move in the bottom floor when the middle or top not even finished, those who want the extra will wait for it....
but the point is how JTune think on this matter
like building, 1st floor and 2nd floor is totally the same thing while 1st floor = exhuast and 2nd floor as well = exhuast
Jtune may see it as a whole
will anyone move in an apartment with finished bedroom (exhuast) while the toilet(intake) is still under construction.
i cant wait untill this is ready but i totally agree with you guys
these analogies are becoming really confusing
I'm opting for the unfurnished pent house (stand alone tuneable ecu lol)
LolzQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
i was talking about an apartment building....
but if we remove the analogies for a second (yes my fault)
The stage one and 2 seem to be reflash only (based on feedback and talk on forums)
the 3 and 4 are with the boltons and reflash..
surely a bolton at stage 3 would not affect a stage 1 reflash..
I also cant believe that a company (with aim of making money as all do) would not release something with instant returns, because of something that isnt perfect...
maybe its not that i cant believe it, but i just dont understand it..
:o :o :o