still 103mph =/= 160kw :P
crappy 60ft "normally" = more mph.
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still 103mph =/= 160kw :P
crappy 60ft "normally" = more mph.
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seriously tho, no point arguing " me make more powa than you" over the world wide web.
show us what the car can do with a slip
shut us all up!
ALL THE BEST to fellow Allmotor racers
z10: Read the previous posts and realise that we are waiting for Summernationals
all the best man :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
hope to see you there with a :honda:
exactly. instead of carrying on about how this car is gonna shame the K20 and how its gonna take the crowning glory of the FWD allmotor tree without anything to back it up, maybe wait until its done.Quote:
Originally Posted by z10
at least get it dynod before these 200kw atw claims are made also.
with NA tuning of small capacity engines the gap between 160wkw and 200wkw is huge.
its much like 1/4 mile times. the lower they get the harder it is to keep bumping them down
lol y the hell would i want to race u wen obviously id hav no chance in hell? i kno my cars slow.. its my first modified car and i havnt done much to it so i've got alot of plans along the way. so if u want, wait till the end of the year coz i too have plans for a k20 conversion plus more :p lolQuote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
well i pulled a 15.24 with just i/h/e and hav suprised alot of vtec hondas. i found that pretty impressive for a b18b2... gary's pulsar? wat.. is it a sss? well ive never been beaten by an n/a one with equal mods to my car (they couldve been bad drivers) so i doubt his would beat mine unless hes got some worked engine
lol i was just referring the the sr20de wen i said stick to turbo.. but surely the sr20ve and sr16ve are great engines. im impressed :thumbsup: just like wen the sportivo corolla came out :thumbsup: awesome engine, awesome car
im in no way dissin nissan, like i said theres alot of nissans i would love to own over alot of other hondas (my favorite being the 350z).. just annoyed at the fact that u n garyd r tryna compare ur car to a stock internal k20 n u back up ur statement by sayin it cost less
im actually glad i took part in this thread coz ive learnt alot from it :p thanks guys lol but id just like to say:
in my opinion honda has the crown for small n/a engines and has yet to be beaten and nissan gets the crown for their turbo engines
well my new K20A has got over 200wkw @ 8500 now I have done a street able bottom end conversion to it.. The motor runs to almost 10,000rpm so there is still plenty more in the motor, plus sleeving it and running 15:1 compression would see well over 300whp anyway..
Sounds awesome. Any vids/pics? Any chance of floating it over to Aus for some runs? We All motor desperatly needs more quick fwds in aus otherwise it could end a rotar festQuote:
Originally Posted by Non Vtec
i hope you are going to a test and tune before the big day?Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
you know, to sort the 'gremlins' out...
unless that private driveway is enough, in which case - you are a very lucky person :D
PS - what tyres will you be running?
It has already been dyno'ed for the initial power output. It has had 2 more days of tuning done since with trumpet changes and chasing a mis-fire that was sorted yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by sivic
Yes, there will be a test & tune where she will be running the 18's and a full interior. The gremlins being sorted out was discussed on the Pulsar forum plus allow her to get rid of the nerves so she can see how the car handles on a grippier surface than roadbase hotmix.
I've been talking to a few guys about bringing it over to race, but I want a spare motor and box etc befroe I come across, so I need to save abit more.. I'd want to be running low 10's or quicker if I came to aussie otherwise there isnt any point in coming over..
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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS
Correct on both accounts. Howevr, it took Nissan 2 years to BEAT 108hp/L. It took another 3 years for Honda to MATCH Nissan's 123hp/L.Quote:
Originally Posted by dc4t
You two are so Honda biased it's not even funny. At least I can appreciate the B16A and B18C (Type R) for the great motors that they are.
Weq comes onto PGA, and I've never seen him get knocked. The Nissan bashing on this forum WAY exceeds the Honda bashing on PGA.
Honda also made 100hp/L in 1989....I have no idea when Nissan first made 100hp/L out of one of their 4cyl motors?Quote:
Originally Posted by b13nx
Of course the Nissan bashing occurs alot here, most people I know who drive honda's are very much the same, Honda drivers are just arrogant lol
I don't know why everyone's still going on about this, untill there are some dyno charts or slips posted of this 'new' motor, there isn't much to say other than the bickering that's already going on lol.
From what I've read the SR16VE and SR20VE variants were released in 1997, whereas the B16A was released in 1989, thats a good 8-9 years it took for Nissan to get near Honda;) With the F20C being released in 1999, I don't know of any otrher 4 cylinder motor that has won as many awards as it has? Please correct me if these are wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by b13nx
I'm not taking anything away from Nissan and their NEO motors, I wouldn't mind one in say a datto 1600 or 1200 ute:D
Yeh i try and keep things as unbiased as possible. i seriously have respect for good engineering in general. Most of the good engineers ive met also have the same idea. Narrowmind = bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by b13nx
umm dude.. honda is the most "bashed" car manufacturer ive ever heard about. i can prove it but im too lazy to post up links. from the forums ive been on honda is dissed by holden drivers, ford drivers, nissan drivers, bmw drivers, euro car drivers, mazda drivers etc etc.. too much to write down and just bcoz nissan is bashed a lil bit on this forum u wanna cry about it?Quote:
Originally Posted by b13nx
i mean ask one person around the streets whos not a honda fan. and theyll say "honda is rice"
and wen they actually see a honda pulling crazy times they then say "its bcoz theyre so light" but the main hondas are designed to be lightweight from the factory :rolleyes:
Which class will you be running at the summernationals. Super Street? very good and competitive class that one, it's a 11.00 to 12.99 DYO, need to qualify better than 12.99 to make the field..
when is summernationals? wouldn't wanna miss all the action... :)
i love hondas even though i drive a nissan myself.
friend has a civic coupe with a b18c, i love it. shape wise, they sick as cars
to achieve big power, ill just stick to my snail :]
summernational's is this weekend. which are the best days to go??
So im guessing this guy talked it up a bit too much??? i dont see anymore bragging :)
post slips?
who went to the 'nats?
Weq: Read my post in the Pulsar forum, in the intro section
http://forum.pulsar.org.au/showpost....0&postcount=93
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Originally Posted by iamhappy46
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Now where is the time slip ?
My girlfriends(the driver) sister got diagnosed with a Neuro-Blastoma(google it) so she was not able to attend. I still have a broken ankle so I chose to spend time with my GF and her family rather than risk damaging my ankle or the car :!:
The time was G-Tech recorded and ECU data logged as a backup. We will be in SE Qld in about 2 weeks, so will have to post a few times from Willowbank.
I really think you should stop posting until you get a time slipQuote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
without a time slip, no one really cares.
Once you have a time slip, then you can rub it into all the haters, until then I really don’t think you are doing yourself any justice proclaiming that you have a 12sec car or 200kw.
I was answering questions as to why I was not there and giving an indication of when time slips will be forthcoming.
LOL! I got a stock b16a, and it runs 12s with the gtec as well...... i just got to find a hill steep enough.... hahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
Would it not be an intelligent idea for this thread to be locked until we all have a timeslip to draw conclusions from?
no, we can keep hacking on iamhappy46 as he thinks his nissan is fast...Quote:
Originally Posted by v3ctourist
but seriously- iamhappy46, i hope your partners sister is going to be OK, and keep resting your ankle, get well soon (so you can get a real time slip!!!)
Damn my records been beaten.......
I love how you quote to the hundreths of a second with something as inaccurate as a G-Tech. It's like looking to the position of the sun in the sky and quoting the time in seconds hehehe
yeah i wouldnt go by gtech times. they're very optimistic. gyro sytems which can actually measure to such accuracies cost far more than what a gtech costs. they also require constant callibration.
its like relying on the public airpump at your local servo to give you an accurate measurement of your tyre pressure
i know it sounds like we're all hating but such big calls require hard evidence to be backed up with and i've never seen a gtech time considered an official time.
very keen to see the end result though:thumbsup:
Thanks tinkerbell. Hoping to get some good news in the next few days if chemo works.
I used the MoTec M800 data log to calculate the acceleration rate/wheelspin/time/speed, etc and the data adds up to a theoretical 12.64 with a terminal velocity of 110.7Mph. The G-Tech was quicker than this figure but I doubt the MoTec can fudge numbers with the data it controls/reads.
Of course, we all would know that getting that sort of time on a drag strip, where all sorts of variables(temp,grip,nerves) can occur is why I want her to post a legitimate time(which I wanted to do at WSID)
I see no reason why a sub 13 pass is not feasible on street tyres. If slicks can get 60ft times down to a <1.9, a low 12 is possible with my 50Kg girlfriend driving.
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Originally Posted by iamhappy46
soz i was looking all over pulsar.org for the info. hope to see slips soon!
Best Thread Eva!!!!
Video 1
2nd Gear take off, due to broken engine mounts, grab 3rd as speedo shows actual road speed, 3rd gear wheels spin to about 140K's, grab 4th as road speed slows to 100k's and then watch it wind out to 200k's in the wet!
Video 2
3rd gear from 60K's, grab 4th as the speedo slows to represent road speed then out to 180K's in 4th gear.
Video 3
4th gear wheelspin in the wet, back off throttle then back to WOT and watch that speedo fly!
MANY MANY thanks to dsp26 from PGA for his conversion of the .3gp's files I sent him.
Hope to have my last 2 videos available shortly...
....?
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Originally Posted by Kawasaki
ahhaaaa
Dude, FFS take it to a drag strip...PLEASE!!!!!
He's saving his 'debut' for the 28th of march. 2 months away :( Until then, I suppose...
28th of March was yesterday...do you mean May?Quote:
Originally Posted by v3ctourist
Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
yeh ok, ill watch the videos later... funny how you picked a wet day to do all this huge 4th gear wheelspinning.... then running to 200....
????? why do i in wet weather, you said it spins 1,2,3 in dry? surely you could show us all, since your bothering to post a video... at least in the dry?
and unfortunately you had a broken engine mount....? you built the motor yourself, your old mans an ex v8 driver, and you go out and put a video together to show all us honda boys what your car is capable of with a ****ing broken engine mount?
go to the track mate, do it in sydney, and make a thread which DEFINITIVELY SAYS WHEN YOU ARE GOING
UNTIL THEN, STFU AND GTFO
compact attack maybe ?
The video was actually for PGA... Note the first video has traction in 4th gear and shows what the car is capable of. Pulls from 120K's to 200K's very smoothly.
Sorry mate, yes I meant May :oQuote:
Originally Posted by pillow
Yepo, he's said he'll be 'in attendance' which had better mean "I'll definately be there without a problem, 100%, no question, with my car, I'll be driving it, it'll be in ideal tune, I won't have an excuse for lower-than-expected results, etc" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EG5
Yeah, I will be in attendance. Obviously, nerves, wet weather, a variety of other factors may prevent me from pulling expected numbers(a low 12 on my first serious outing in a long time) but it will give you all a chance to look at the car/engine bay.
Try these videos, they have audio and are in mp4 format...
The reason why my engine mounts break ;) Bit hard to watch but good for audio.
This one I had to shift slower and earlier in the rev range as the mounts were broken.
Gotta love the intake noise :rockin:
Got Drummond Motorsport 50mm Coilovers on order, with paint and panel repairs being sorted out this week.
I should be in Newcastle/Sid-o-knee on the 17th/18th of April in my Nissan X-Trail GT, if any Honda people want a look. Should be in the Sydney CBD or something on the night of the 17th. Probably with a lot of PGA members...
mate - if you wanna get horny over intake noise,
you really need a Honda ;)
*rightclick save as* 8MB
http://home.exetel.com.au/tinkerbell...instraight.avi
main straight at wakefield :D
doesnt quite rev as fast as yours, but damn hell sure sounds better :thumbsup:
man did that thing just jump up to 120 km/h as soon as you launched??????
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Originally Posted by 2MPRSS
it looks like it! :)
wheels spinning too fast!
yeh badly ha,good luck at compak attack are yougoing to be using slicks?
For the first video:
It was taking off in second gear(as engine mounts were already broken, in first gear the box lifts and knocks it back into neutral), grabbed third(where you see the 120Km/h at around the 12s mark) and then wind it out in 4th gear to around 160 before backing off and slowing down.
These vids were before the other vids and were too large to MMS, so took a while to get them off the phone.
*coughing alot ... ;)
Yeah, I will be using slicks and I will have more than 203Kw@wheels running on slicks. Waiting on new engine mounts to be fitted and paint/panel work before it gets a final tune. Will be sure to post the new dyno graph up for everybody...
Also planning a street tyred run with around 200Kw@wheels.
bro what your saying means 0 factor for everyone ...
since you started this all we wanted is a timeslip ..... :)
Good luck though
I just chat with the owner of this pulsar on msn.
He said he is not gonna be at compak attak for whatever reason .
Please tell me you're kidding...
Booooo Thread is worthless I want to see a race after all that talk
Go The Pulsar :p
Post the exact conversation from MSN, I DID NOT SAY THAT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EG5
I stated that I am not going but my car is, as we got another driver and he should be posting some good times.
If the date had not been changed from the 28th to the 21st, I could have made it.
woot
:)
PS no need to yell
wat happened to drivin ur own car these days...
cant believe 19pages of sh!t, and theres still no time slip...
Calvo: The fact I had surgery on a broken left ankle and am unable to use a clutch, is why I do not drive the SSS these days. That is why I have an auto to drive...
The new date has stuffed up my schedule but I organised a driver. Got the X-Trail as the support car(SSS is being trailered there) and should have no problems running on slicks or streel legal radials. I am attending compak attak but I will not be racing...
cool :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
PM me if you want a driver to race your car :)
There is no doubt about whether it will run a low 12 first time out...Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
2nd that!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by snowman95
Oh,hang on,let me just check Pandas thread one more time(you know the one),just to be sure........*sneaks off to the lounge*
Someone should submit this thread to Fast & Furious for a sequel,its got it all
:honda: :thumbsup:
cant wait too see the pulsar cop the civic
I think everyone on here knows how much effort, development work and trial/error went into EGK20A. It was a really quick car for a mildly modified K20A.
In reality, it is not about the SSS beating any FWD Civic/Integra/Excel but about pulling the numbers to 'help' backup the power claim, right? With over 270Nm of torque@crankshaft available, it has the potential to pull some very fast times/trap speeds for a N/A FWD.
Hopefully, it will spur on the N/A FWD drag racing scene in Australia, which all of you would agree is a GOOD THING.
No more negative posts until Compak Attak, OK? Feel free to flame me afterwards if we only get a 13.0001! Will let Yonas know asap about being the pilot, talk to you on msn mate.
What is the weight of this so called weapon Nissan I want to work out what mph it should run with the claimed power output.Was there ever a dyno sheet posted up for everyone to see the claimed power output of that egk20a because I still remember it running at a street meet with a std intake manifold on it and they claimed 140 something kw then when it ran the 12.3 it was only a couple of mph faster but they claimed 170+kw then which is outrageous as it would have gone 8 to 12mph faster with that sort of power output.The only difference I seen was it was running slicks & the quad throttle body setup when it ran 12.3 and I think it had drag radials on it at the street meet where it ran 12.8.Please dont get this wrong as I think the times the Civic ran where great and it was a great thing that the JDM yard guys did but the plain truth of it all is mph comes from KW's.
ALLMTR996
The Pulsar has a lot of new parts since its last weigh in, I have no idea what it would weigh these days. Some new parts are lighter than the ones they replaced, other work has made the car heavier. Also had the interior stripped from the B pillars back. I would hazard a guess and say around 2000Lbs(900+Kg) including driver.
For reference, this is a thread on a 200+Hp@wheels SR20VE in the USA.
Dude what does that link have to do with the weight of your car?.With the 900kg car and your claimed power you should run 116 mph + guess we will see at the Compak Attack how much of this is bullshit and how much is real.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
ALLMTR996
With that power you claim and 900kgs on slicks 11.9@116mph if you know how to set a FWD chassis up, if it does not run this with your so called special gearing I will torch you with a flame thrower after the Compak Attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamhappy46
This power is more than a FACTORY built 2lt Super Tourer engine was making in the late 90's and yes I was the Team Engineer for 3 different brands of these things for 10 years so I do know what they where making.Funny how Online's CRX car comes out and runs 10.98@118.something MPH and yet NO ONE knows or will ever know what power it makes as the ET and MPH speak for themself's.And if you would care to pull your head out of your arse ALLMTR is a ANDRA Sport Compact class and has been one of the best supported class's at the Sport Compact Meetings this last season so dont think that your Nissan streetcar will suddenly spur eveyone on to come racing.
Regards Dyno Dave
Guys ,please,you gotta stop!!!
I gotta know the end to this superb drama series......
Between this thread,Lost,waitin for Miss Chanel to post another pic & waitin for my mounts to arrive from the states,I'm losing my mind :confused:
:honda: ;) :honda: :) :honda: :p :honda: :D :honda: :cool: :honda: :thumbsup: :honda: :angel:
lol@threadQuote:
Originally Posted by CRXer
270Nm at the crank?
sorry... but no, not possible with an na 2.0l.
Dude just wait till after the Compak Attack then we will let the games begin as I have only just started.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by CRXer
Regards Dyno Dave
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Originally Posted by DynoDave
oh man i cant wait!!!!!!!
FLLAAAAAAAAAAAMAGE
Not possible... yeah, probably not possible for a 2.0L but seeing as this not a 2.0L, it is possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
Tomei SR22DE power/torque graph, 250+Nm@crankshaft here The VE head is a much better design than the DE head so more torque can be generated with the right tuning/CR/camshafts.
ALLMTR996: The SR20VE thread was relevant to those who question the power potential of any SRxxVE engine. Internally standard SR20VE has 150Kw@wheels.
Also, the SR16VE N1 motor in Japan can easily get 150Kw@wheels with extractors, exhaust, 12.7:1 CR, camshafts, ECU and other support mods. Not bad for a 1.6L!
DynoDave: The SR20DE Touring car engines are nice(with head reversed so the inlet manifold on the front, exhaust on the back right?) but they were limited to a stock crank and 2045cc capacity(from memory)
I am sure that you would agree that if torque could be increased via a longer stroke and using the VE head to optimise a low lobe rpm cam for street duties and hi lobes for higher rpm, that the power output is attainable.
The car will be in Sydney a few days before Compak Attak, your welcome to get your own power/torque figures out of the car, then flame the car then and there if you like.
Also my 'gearing' is not the 'special' part of my gearbox :zip: