bah! shes not man. its easier to type gf than a women friend. LOL
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Nice to see those gains kit! Too bad my euro is now gone otherwise we can do a comparison. I went the easy way to get more power by replacing it with a 2.7 V6 TT lol!
Hi,
i`m Chris from Germany and i`m looking for a long time to tune the Accord til i found this ;) We also got the Euro Accord.
I allready searched and looked to different threads, but i still got some questions (maybe my english is to bad...)
If i use the Ultimate and V-Manage is it possible to run aftermarket cams like Skunk2 Stage 1, or better can i tune a Type-R K20 Head with these combination or Turbo?
What is the different between VTC and Vtec engagement, sorry i never heard of...
Is there a way to raise the rev limit? We here in Germany got a 7200 rpm limit and that sucks!!!!!!
Will it also work on the Facelift?
Will it also work on the CL7 (not the Euro-R) it`s the K20A6 powered 147hp version?
Is it always the same harness (TSX 04-05, air & water) that i need?
Will the K-Pro Dual ECU work?
If yes could i use all standalone which can handle the K-Series i-Vtec, example an Haltech, Motec ect for engine controlling and the stock ecu the rest.
Do i need also a refresh ecu to usw the K-Pro?
Many many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
same thought. wanting to get toda a3 with ultimate combo.
:p finally saved up enough to purchase the wiring harness from Boomslang :thumbsup: I have ordered the 04-05 TSX harness (air & water), and i have a 2006 euro, and you guys said it fits right =)
how long did it take you guys to get your hands on them? i went with the cheaper $15US postage option since i'm not in total hurry :cool:
couple of weeks say 2weeks or more....
Have you guys got pictures of what it looks like installed? I'm contemplating on getting it in the near future but I've got to make sure it's stealthy (cause parents can be in the car). My car's got quite a few mods already so it should give me a fair bit more power.
mines in the glove box so you cant see anything LOL
dayum! keep us updated please chris! LOL
pm sent about the VTC ;)
it's definitely much safer with the 45 degree VTC. The only problem is finding a trustworthy place to get the 25 degree vtc gear machined.
The funny thing is, you can buy aggressive aftermarket cams that are safe with the full 50 degrees. It makes me wonder how dangerous it really is with the OEM cams.
Yea that's true, the k20's do have more room to play with.
This is taken from the IPS website (http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/news.html):
They still suggest a 45 degree limit through software which will be possible with a good standalone ecu. The majority of cam manufacturers that mention max VTC usually say to limit it via software. Though mechanical limits are always safer...Quote:
IPS-K2 compatibility for use with K24A2 (TSX) confirmed. Piston to valve clearance @ 50 degrees VTC advance = 0.030". We suggest imposing max advance of 45 degrees through software. Clearances were taken using RSX-S VTC sprocket. TSX VTC sprocket has mechanical limitation of 25 degrees max advance.
It'd be good if you could buy an off the shelf 45 degree VTC gear.
I think its about 15cm x 10cm in length and width and about 2 cm thickness. Only guesstimate though. No drills need to be done at all. Once you hook the plug and play harness from boomslang to you ECU, put back the carpet to cover the harness, pull the harness through the back of the glove box. There is a gap smaller than a fist size. Then plug the other end of harness to your emanage. Easy easy! Everything goes in neat. You cant even see any part of the harness uncovered. Then I lock my glove box so no one will play with it lol.
Has anyone got a map for intake + exhaust to share? the wiring harness will arrive this week =) so just wanna try it out first.
Then maybe later this month, i going to get a header for it then get it all tuned together then. Thinking of the Toda ones since i hear all those good feedback from you guys.
yeah but toda are fkn expensive!! i put on dc sports headers and j's racing single outlet titanium exhaust and it feels like a new car!
yah. but from responses that i read, the gain from the headers alone is much better than intake + exhaust together. at the moment my budget for the header is around 2-2.5k.
At the moment, i have a injen cai and greddy evo2 catback. someone please share me a map to test with :eek:
i'm noob lol~!! i can't even use the computer properly except just surfing on ozhonda :p i'm think i will go to toda since that's i'm planning to get their headers + adrian knows his stuff.
getting clutch + flywheel for my dc5R tomorrow at toda :thumbsup:
but just before i get the header, i just wanna try out the emanage ulti, so i thought someone might have a tune similar to my mods that i can load it and try it out.
Toda is a good choice and I've never looked back since I got them off Adrian..
AS for the map sharing, it might not be as beneficial as every car is different irregardless of similarities in modifications.
yeh i might put mine in sometime this week and see what it's like on the laptop (might play around with it but am scared hahahah)
agree with you TODA is priceless, that is where i am going to get mine tuned once i get my fkn intake done properly.
students can't afford toda... can i point this out... lucky bastards
Do you guys change cams also? Ultimate cannot adjust VTC right?
I am thinkin of getting Toda C with Ultimate. Any advise?
Thanks
if you're going with aggressive cams, you should get a better ecu than this IMO
Vi-pec v88 or Hondata K-pro
if no one has any map to share. is there any website that teach you how to play with the ultimate or maybe forums which discuss about it?
are you using it for your DC5R or Euro?
buy harness for other car also so you can use on both. :p
a close friend got an 2006 euro in manual and we working on it together =) so it's another one, in red this time.
At the moment, it has
injen intake
greddy evo2 exhaust
tein ss coilovers
rays g game 77m rims
mugen shiftknob
mugen grille
r888 semi slicks
that's about it. and just got emanage ultimate harness so ready to be put it. thinking of header at the end of this month. probably toda.
lol yes he drive it on monday, i drive it on tuesday, and dc5R on wednesday.
STEVE!! what you doing now? you in macquarie? did u end up getting another vip project after your investment in shares?
LOL OFF TOPIC!!!
Thanks for the suggestion Tony, i will look into that. I'm still looking at my options at the moment.
Does the comptech comes with a high flowing cat?
I'm with Justin... get all the parts you want on the car then get it dyno tuned, too risky otherwise
Comptech header does not come with cat
high flow cats from Random Tech or custom fab Metal cat
tony said comptech bolts up to the stock cat.
toda comes with test pipe and needs cat welded to it, TODA can do it as "akina" has done it.
Yes, RT cat is ideal but is not viable with Oz $$$ sucking dogZ ballZ!! :p
Metal cat would be nice but still quite expensive too.
But if you have the money to waste then go berserk and goo for the top stuff....
i love you guys :)
i have a site somewhere that teaches you how to street tune, but id have to look up the address... once again tho, with street tuning you still need an o2 sensor to make sure your a/f ratios stay good... :thumbsup:
as for lower vtec... its very boring... lol your dont get that awesome kick from 1st and 2nd vtec engagement... its alot more subdue...
:o OH MY!! :eek:
help!!!
i pluged in all the wires and everything, then no one supplied me with a map so i just thought i will leave it stock till i get my header then get it all tuned together.
BUT for some reason, it still does something to the car. It won't let me rev pass 3000rpm, and it backfires when it hits 3000rpm.
HELP!!!! is it possible to restore back to stock? or get some map for just normal use till i get my headers.
Thanks guys :zip:
Could the stock ecu have gone into limp mode but the emanage is still trying to force more air and fuel in causing the backfire at 3000rpm?
I'd disconnect the emanage straight away and disconnect the battery for a night.
lol its in limp mode...
did you set all the dip switches inside the unit for a K24?
and you also need to make up a car "profile" telling the greddy which sensors and alterations you wanna use...
disconnecting it breaks the loop in the injectors and ignition, it wont start unless you take the whole harness out and plug in the stock wires to the ecu...
if you can wait a day or two, ill try send you a base "profile" for an accord euro so you can have it running stock :thumbsup:
added both of you... ill try make the map tomorrow... im guessing your both 6sp manual?
ill program in a manual throttle position voltage, but if you know how to add your own into the profile, prob best to do that once you get the map... just makes the partion throttle mapping more acurate...
as for the dip switches, i think i have a list of what positions they need to be in, ill post that up too :thumbsup:
oh, both running air and water inputs?
Are you guys using Ultimate with aftermarket cams? How is the VTC?
Thx
na they arent just I/H/E and RBC intake manifold some of them i assume?
I have finally gotten my E-manage Ultimate connected and updated. Also a stock map to run on it :thumbsup: helps from the member on OH. I'm about ready to test it out, but I want to make sure the jumpers on the inside are set correctly for my euro.
Could anyone post a picture or directions on how they need to be set?
Hey Leon, I thought you got rid of your Euro?
Greddy Emanage Ultimate jumper settings
all my work on finding the settings, so no stealing my thunder! lol
i think that's his mates car. red euro with mugen grill?
Dynoing the car soon?
i think that goes away after u drive around for awhile
check engine light has something to do with your cat so your o2 sensors, but give it a test drive and see how it goes.
UPDATE: I spoke with Justin and confirmed that his and my Emanage are slightly different.
I have an extra jumper which is JP21 - Injector Input/Output (jumper configures injector input/output signal); Set to 1-2 when using injector adj map to trim and add fuel, set to OPEN if you want to ADD ONLY.
Can Ultimate remove rev cut and speed limiter?
There is no speed cut (from my 'testing'), only rev cut. There's some confusion as to whether the car's rev cut is a typical fuel cut, or the throttle body closing as well.
When I hit rev cut in the Euro though it feels much too jerky and quick to be the throttle body opening and closing. So I think there may be hope of increasing redline with a SA ecu.
A few K24s in Singapore and Malaysia have had their RPM cut out increased to 8000RPM with no issues, be mindful that this is on a long stroke engine as well....