my 15 yr old mugen twin loop is still working how it should be too
it only made 1-2kws on my butt dyno but
so it makes it inferior to the examples you mentioned
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my 15 yr old mugen twin loop is still working how it should be too
it only made 1-2kws on my butt dyno but
so it makes it inferior to the examples you mentioned
Honestly from my previous mugen twin loop (axle back) compared to my twin loop by xforce (axle back aswell) the xforce came out Much quieter for some unknown reason.
This is with an oem ek9 b pipe with decat
I'm uploading the video now of the xforce for you to have a listen
But the xforce I own is alot quieter then most people's, unknown reason...
2.5" straight pipe whole way guys
Real or fake,twinloop looks and sounds like shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brJTEQuvCJE
i stuck with this exhaust because i got defected for my previous cannon muffler (Vision N1)
this muffler whilst driving its really un-noticable, only time it really becomes alive is when i'm coasting in a high gear or rev towards rev limit.
PHO might have a few opinions on it, he took my car for a drive a few times and no ones ever complained LOL
Dont just assume non of us have ever owned a jap spec cat back ;)... Ive already gone through 2 setups, 5zigen cat back and Vision N1 cat back which i have atm... Quality is top notch, welds are exceptional! BUT those were built only 10 - 5 yrs ago, fastward now, u can pickup a new cat back for lesser price $500 - $800 vs $1500 for a jdm cat back minus the shipping an taxes
Inferior from a performance POV, build quality is top notch, theres no deny it, but how can anyone spend and justify say 1500 - 800 and only expect a gain of 1-2kw Lmaooooooo....
Sorry man but just goes to show that mugen made a shit performance product an slapped a massive price tag much like ARC which went bankrupt! All eye candy an no performance gains at all
so who would pay 1500-1800 for a 2nd hand exhaust ?
so have you owned a mugen twin loop is the question not owning a jdm exhaust ?
so why have you got a jdm exhaust when you reackon jdm is shit as mentioned earlier
what do you think the vision exhaust would of cost if you had to buy it new from japan .........
the original topic of discussion was between a $800 x force twin loop and a used twin loop for about the same amount the money
you must have a massive price tag exhaust too, because vision went bust too if you didnt know
wtf, how do you justify buying fake exhausts, look at the replica N1 compared to the real N1 , the difference of noise is unbelieveable.. If your going to go an exhuast for a jap car, source it directly from japan.. Like everyone always goes on about X-FORCE, next minute 10,000 complaints upon the forum regarding their headers cracking and problems with their e systems,
Work up the money and spend the bit extra and get something that will make the difference. Everyone's opinion to their own i guess.
I have custom exhaust that should fit your car matt if your looking at changing the system.
After going with a jasma approved spoon b-pipe and spoon n1 axle back, There is not a chance that i would go anything else , not even mugen.. next thing is toda headers which are on hold for me!