Does you euro have drift to one side tendency?

Several pages back i asked if anyone else had measured the wheelbase on left and right sides of their cars.(didnt get any answers on that) My vehicle is 10mm shorter on the right side than on the left side.Its never been pranged,nor even driven over a big pothole,came that way from factory.That effectivley means the car points right in the straight ahead position.
I've all but given up on this issue, and am waiting for my RE040's to wear out so i can try a set of symmetrical tyres.
I'm due for 20,000k service next week and i'm unsure if i want Honda to check and fiddle with the K frame and alignment.Jeez, i dont know if i even want them to balance and rotate my tyres, for fear of making the drift worse.

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Originally Posted by avid

Several pages back i asked if anyone else had measured the wheelbase on left and right sides of their cars.(didnt get any answers on that) My vehicle is 10mm shorter on the right side than on the left side.Its never been pranged,nor even driven over a big pothole,came that way from factory.That effectivley means the car points right in the straight ahead position.
I've all but given up on this issue, and am waiting for my RE040's to wear out so i can try a set of symmetrical tyres.
I'm due for 20,000k service next week and i'm unsure if i want Honda to check and fiddle with the K frame and alignment.Jeez, i dont know if i even want them to balance and rotate my tyres, for fear of making the drift worse.

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How do you measure the wheelbase on each side? Where is your middle point?

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Originally Posted by thezone

Hi guys this is my first post at this forum. I have a 07 Euro Lux Navi Man which has always drfited to the right. Done 5,000 km now and have had it back to honda several times. Only to be told there is no fault with my car. Service manager (Dave Potter Honda SA) told me Euros tend to drift a bit and it's the nature of the car. Something perhaps they should tell you before you buy! I must say tho, if you ignore said drifting its an awsome value for money example of motor enginnering. Just need to lower it now.

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It gets worse when you lower the Euro. Remember to get a rear camber and toe adjustment kit.

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Originally Posted by avid

Several pages back i asked if anyone else had measured the wheelbase on left and right sides of their cars.(didnt get any answers on that) My vehicle is 10mm shorter on the right side than on the left side.Its never been pranged,nor even driven over a big pothole,came that way from factory.That effectivley means the car points right in the straight ahead position.
I've all but given up on this issue, and am waiting for my RE040's to wear out so i can try a set of symmetrical tyres.
I'm due for 20,000k service next week and i'm unsure if i want Honda to check and fiddle with the K frame and alignment.Jeez, i dont know if i even want them to balance and rotate my tyres, for fear of making the drift worse.

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If you lower it you will have no hope of Honda fixing the issue....happened to me, good excuse for them to void warranty. HA was quick to point out that warranty void wit my case.

This thread is still going!

I occasionally experience the right pull but my car has been tramlining less since fitting Dunlop SportMaxx tyres. It's probably because they are new. I have gone against earlier posted advice and I have increased the tyre pressures to 46psi front and 34psi rear. Apart from the slightly "jigglier" ride (and great turn-in), it has reduced tramlining even more; probably because it has made the tyre cross section rounder. I don't think it will increase centre of tyre wear because tyres on the Euro wear the shoulders first anyway.

The maximum air pressure for the reinforced version of the 225/45R17 SportMaxx's on my car is 50psi. It seems that any rim bigger than 16 inch doesn't work well on the Euro. My original 16 inch tyres (205/55R16 Dunlop 2050M) did not have any problems in this regard. But then again, the Acura TSX has 17 inch rims but with taller (larger diameter and profile) 215/50R17 tyres (sorry, tires in USA speak). Maybe Acura recognised that larger width tires (sic) as huge, ultrawide, gi-normous as 225's cause tramlining problems and went for a taller and "rounder" cross section tire (sic).

I believe that the Type R in Europe has 215/45R17 tyres. Has anyone used this smaller and speedometer flattering tyre size on the Aussie Euro?

Our complaint in this thread is not tramlining though. :)

btw, 46psi is too high. When you drive, the tyres heat up and it can go above 50psi.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

How do you measure the wheelbase on each side? Where is your middle point?

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Aaron,I measured from the centre of each wheel cap, front to back.Even though its not accurate to the mm,in my cars case its easy enough to see the 10mm difference.I also measured the height of the car on each side,unlike some other peoples findings,i found very little difference in ride height,few mm at most.I've also experimented with all sorts of tyre pressures even to the point of making one side or the other pressure higher in an attempt to "offset" the drifting effect.Very little difference,if any, in my case.

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Originally Posted by avid

Aaron,I measured from the centre of each wheel cap, front to back.Even though its not accurate to the mm,in my cars case its easy enough to see the 10mm difference.I also measured the height of the car on each side,unlike some other peoples findings,i found very little difference in ride height,few mm at most.I've also experimented with all sorts of tyre pressures even to the point of making one side or the other pressure higher in an attempt to "offset" the drifting effect.Very little difference,if any, in my case.

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I just went out and measured mine, 268cm on each side. (oh, and my driver's side front corner is lower by 1cm compared to the passenger's side).

Did you get your subframe adjusted by the dealer?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I just went out and measured mine, 268cm on each side. (oh, and my driver's side front corner is lower by 1cm compared to the passenger's side).

Did you get your subframe adjusted by the dealer?

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No,i havnt had the Dealer touch it.My left wheel base is 267cm and right is 266cm, give or take a mm or two,BTW.My car is stock height,not lowered.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Our complaint in this thread is not tramlining though. :)

btw, 46psi is too high. When you drive, the tyres heat up and it can go above 50psi.

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Actually, LXRY and Tobster were talking about Tramlining and/or Tramtracking on the previous page and there are numerous other references in this thread to Tramlining. Tobster had even contended that lowering tyre pressures helps with Tramlining.

I was reporting on my experience with increasing tyre pressures as opposed to reducing them. It is better to run higher pressures for high speed.

I am aware of the increase in pressure when the tyres heat-up. The rule of thumb is a 4 psi increase. That's why I inflated my car's tyres to 46 psi (max is 50 psi with the reinforced SportMaxx 225/45R17).

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Originally Posted by SPQR

Actually, LXRY and Tobster were talking about Tramlining and/or Tramtracking on the previous page and there are numerous other references in this thread to Tramlining. Tobster had even contended that lowering tyre pressures helps with Tramlining.

I was reporting on my experience with increasing tyre pressures as opposed to reducing them. It is better to run higher pressures for high speed.

I am aware of the increase in pressure when the tyres heat-up. The rule of thumb is a 4 psi increase. That's why I inflated my car's tyres to 46 psi (max is 50 psi with the reinforced SportMaxx 225/45R17).

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Sorry but this thread has nothing to do with tramlining.

Aaronng is right :thumbsup:

It has to do with a problem with drifting to one side flat road or cambered road excessively than normal.

Tobster mentioned tramlining previous page not me, I stated that I have no problems with tramlining anymore, and yes we all know that bridgestone's
REO40's are a bad tyre for tramlining....

I no longer have this problem with tramlining with my new Michelin's, and I have still have a problem with my car pulling excessively to the right side

Your contribution or help is appreciated regarding tramlining and tyre pressure's ;)

I believe that a lot of the veering described by people in this thread could be due to tramlining.

I had a little play while driving home last night. My steering is happy to veer to the left, the right or to stay straight ahead -- all within a tiny fraction of a steering-wheel turn.

Since the car tramlines so readily, it really doesn't take much to get it to veer...