Civic Type R $39,990 + On Roads

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Originally Posted by Moya

oh ok, so Type R means Type Road. Thanks, I kept thinking Honda kept the same principals as the DC2R. My Bad.

Why are people standing up for this car soo badly? It's a nice car, but just admit it's not a Type R and we'll all be happy. Type R is crazy, stupid, fun, loud off the shelf track car. This thing isn't.

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As I said, the Type R you fondly remember is the FD2 CTR.

I saw one CTR @ St George Hospital!!!!
Must be one of those doctors in there....

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Originally Posted by Moya

oh ok, so Type R means Type Road. Thanks, I kept thinking Honda kept the same principals as the DC2R. My Bad.

Why are people standing up for this car soo badly? It's a nice car, but just admit it's not a Type R and we'll all be happy. Type R is crazy, stupid, fun, loud off the shelf track car. This thing isn't.

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I'm not standing up for the car. I was stating facts.

Look at what I drive and have for 7 years. Read this whole thread and see what I have posted. Go to clubitr and look at the mess we made to today about CTR.

Why is it so hard for people (moya) to actually read whole threads before posting?

The fact is Honda Australia wanted a mass market appeal Type R. The fact is I want a track car. FN2 does not equal track car like DC2R.

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Originally Posted by Moya

oh ok, so Type R means Type Road. Thanks, I kept thinking Honda kept the same principals as the DC2R. My Bad.

Why are people standing up for this car soo badly? It's a nice car, but just admit it's not a Type R and we'll all be happy. Type R is crazy, stupid, fun, loud off the shelf track car. This thing isn't.

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So the facts I was stating show it to be more of a Road Car, rather than a Type R, and I'm supporting it somehow? Wouldn't that show I'm demonstrating it's a road car, not a track car? :thumbdwn:

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Originally Posted by locote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW82ozR71M

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lol at that! poor nsx, it looked like he had to slip stream a few laps. but that vid doesnt really mean that the civic is better than the nsx. tsukuba is a mid to low speed course, so where the civic had the advantage was with the low gear cornering, helped by the close ratio box. stick em on a higher speed circuit like ebisu and the nsx would own the civic. the only that shocked me about that vid was the s2000, the gear ratios were closer than the civics, and it still lost.

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Originally Posted by locote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHW82ozR71M

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Originally Posted by SeverAMV

lol at that! poor nsx, it looked like he had to slip stream a few laps. but that vid doesnt really mean that the civic is better than the nsx. tsukuba is a mid to low speed course, so where the civic had the advantage was with the low gear cornering, helped by the close ratio box. stick em on a higher speed circuit like ebisu and the nsx would own the civic. the only that shocked me about that vid was the s2000, the gear ratios were closer than the civics, and it still lost.

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http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70257

Autocar in the UK have driven the FD2.I think the car would be probably too hard for even the hardcore enthusiast.:rolleyes:It only really seems to be a track car according to the "First drive" impressions of the write up.
I wonder if the suspension set up is even harder than the DCR2 ?
A fantastic car but,seems to be quite harsh as an everyday car.
I wouldn't mine if Honda Australia imported a limited number for the hardcore enthusiasts,but I wouldn't be one of the buyers.:)

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...Type-R/226473/

http://www.renault.com.au/docs/renau...RSmeganeF1.asp

Anytime over the FN2 and look ... BREMBOs!!!!! Hahaha...

hehehe... i nearly bought one of the 5-door cup versions last month. far and away, the best stock fwd car i've ever driven. It actually felt more nimble than any of the modded dc2's and ek's i've driven over the years. heaps more usable grunt too. the only gripes i had were lousy plastics and the open diff.

in the end, the dealer wouldn't come to the party on the trade with the euro. so here i am. :honda:

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Originally Posted by ginganggooly

in the end, the dealer wouldn't come to the party on the trade with the euro. so here i am. :honda:

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But but...brembos! & and LSD!!! LOL and almost the same price as the FN2...
So much for the Brembos will drive the cost up excuse from Honda.

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Originally Posted by SeverAMV

lol at that! poor nsx, it looked like he had to slip stream a few laps. but that vid doesnt really mean that the civic is better than the nsx. tsukuba is a mid to low speed course, so where the civic had the advantage was with the low gear cornering, helped by the close ratio box. stick em on a higher speed circuit like ebisu and the nsx would own the civic. the only that shocked me about that vid was the s2000, the gear ratios were closer than the civics, and it still lost.

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What about Suzuka?

NSX Type S - 2:35.44
Evo VI RS - 2:36.50
RX-7 Type RS - 2:35.81
R34 GTR V-spec - 2:39.56

and....

FD2 CTR - 2:35.20

Yes, the CTR is fast. Because it has racing suspension. When tested even on the freeway, the passengers in the car were bouncing about.

"When tested even on the freeway, the passengers in the car were bouncing about." lol

You Tube FTW

http://youtube.com/watch?v=osJRUhgWkpo