457 Visa workers; not "asian".
Affecting affected affect.
The chief mechanic at my local dealership has been there for 23 years. If his job is low paid and he hasn't looked for greener pasture, does that make him dodgy?
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457 Visa workers; not "asian".
Affecting affected affect.
The chief mechanic at my local dealership has been there for 23 years. If his job is low paid and he hasn't looked for greener pasture, does that make him dodgy?
There is an exception to every rule, but it would be very rare to see anyone outside of their apprenticeship stay at any 1 dealer for over 3 or 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
As for Asian mechanics, who cares what visa it is called. What I can tell you is in this town the Holden, Ford & Toyota Dealerships employ Filipino mechanics on 1 year contracts. They have no formal training standards in their own countries, but are hired by certain dealerships to service & repair cars for low pay and high labour rates.
So there is another subject for you to find a book on, research it and post an unqualified opinion.
That's right, only Australia has training and standards. That's an unqualified opinion that is in accord with yours. I didn't have to research it. I just made it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
Oops! I just researched Australian motor mechanics pay: The average is apparently $34,614 per annum.
Interestingly, the minimum pay rate for anyone visiting OZ on a 457 visa is $43,440 per annum. It seems those Filipinos are better paid than the aussie average for mechanics.
Not quite every Motor Vehicle Manufacturer. I bought a new Aurion and it was plagued with problems the moment i drove it out of the lot. It spend over 1 month at the dealership within 6 months (returned 15 times) and they still couldn't fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
Throughout this period i maintained good communications with staff at the SA Regional Office and even went in for a face to face meeting. Despite the dealers attempts to correct ths issues further complaints landed me talking directly to the brass in Melbourne including engineers and head customer relations managers.
In the end the case was resolved to my favour, especially when the Regional Manager drove miles out of their way to collect my car and settle their and then (no more Aurion).
In my mind Toyota Australia run rings around those morons at Honda Australia. They set an example of what Customer Service really is, it's a pity other manufacturers like Honda haven't the brains to follow suit.
You make it so easy to discredit your comments. How many times have you been to the Philippines? How many Filipino family members do you have who are mechanics? How many Vehicle Repair Facilities have you financed in the Philippines? Have you ever been there at all? Have you seen first hand what the Training process is for Mechanics in the Philippines? The list of questions could go on?Quote:
Originally Posted by SPQR
geezzz what does filipino family with working visa has to do with this problem with the CU2? :confused::confused::confused: What next? Africans is the caused why Honda release city here? Stay to the topic ppl!!!
Back to the topic: from the article they found 60 owner has the problem with ECU. make me think that this "ECU" problem is diff to the "Pinging or whatever" problem that most ppl have...
Nothing at all Denot, I made a response to UNITY in good faith, but low and behold Professor SPQR stuck his bib in & got a case of foot in mouth disease again. No comment was directed at him & he had no need to get involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by denot
If you read the post Unity commented that i made some good points, there was no need for another to get invloved.
I don't know what your problem is but I suspect that you might be senile. We were getting on just fine going all the way back to your post (#370) where you reported the pinging issue for your car to which I posted (#372) "Sad to hear of another affected car..." but it went downhill after that when I expressed the hope that the CU2 would not in future be known as a lemon. Despite this innocuous statement, you pounced as if you had thought I'd called the CU2 a lemon. Later, we disagreed in that you seem to think that pinging and pre-ignition are the same whereas in fact they are not. You seem to have taken further exception to my quoting on this topic, for the beneficial information of all, from other sources that were not just me saying something and expecting others to believe me without question. You, on the other hand, appear to sprout Gospel at every turn without any reference to other sources other than your (no doubt) considerable experience; or so you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
You also did not seem to like me agreeing with aaronng that a V6 option for the Euro might be a nice alternative choice.
"The Philistine not only ignores all conditions of life which are not his own but also demands that the rest of mankind should fashion its mode of existence after his own". Johann Wolfgang von Goethe.
[QUOTE=SPQR;2271244]I don't know what your problem is but I suspect that you might be senile.
We are all interested and have different opinions in the Pinging issue but one thing is for sure:
There is no need to insult people.
Let's not degrade this excellent thread.
After 40 years in the Motor Vehicle Repair Industry I have learnt 1 or 2 things about cars. I joined this forum about 3 years ago to help and advise people with problems. I seriously doubt there is too much for me to personally learn from being here.
While I don't pretend to know everything there is to know ( know one does), i have seen some classic problems over my time, the worst involving Mercedes and Jaguars.
While there maybe a small problem with the CU2 Accord & a post ignition noise I personally believe an ant hill has been turned into mount everest, yes i do know about the problem as i own a CU2 Euro Auto. I also believe the problem will be resolved in due course. Rarely do you see a car that is problem free. This is harder for us customers to accept with Honda because they have built their reputation on build quality and reliability, but they are not immune to the odd problem.
I remember a high end imported limousine that took 5 years to rectify a gearbox problem.
I don't need unqualified people trying to tell me my trade. Reading books on theory has nothing to do with practical as has been proven many times.
I answer 1 member & i bring up the subject of dealeships using Filiipino mechanics, a subject I also know a little about as I have extended family in the Philippines & unfortunately i have financed 3 repair shops there & have seen the goings on there. A classic example of a repair was a Toyota with a big end bearing rattle, the filipino remedy was to remove the big end gaps and file them to reduce clearance. Do we need things like that in this country, I don't think so.
Good luck to all OZ Honda Forum members in the future as i am signing off permanently. Enjoy your rides.
^^^
Hmmm... Grats SPQR?
Anyway, I will too sign off from this thread as it becomes more and more useless everyday and will wait for Honda Australia to inform me when the fix is released (not that I got any pinging).
Peace out...