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You have to ask few questions to yourself to decide whether Ford Focus or Fn2.
1. Performance
2. Spacious
3. Interior
4. Maintenance (Most important, you wouldn't buy a car but you can't maintain it)
From the way your replied, it sound you already decided to get ford xr5 but need further comments.
See thats my problem, I WAS sure on the XR5. But with some of the comments here that do make sense, Im leaning toward the Honda now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ViVi
1) Performance - this is probably not the most important. The Honda is slower in a straight line, but its a very nice handeling car. Unfortunately I can buy a low kilometre 2007 type r for half the price for speed. So which ever goes faster is not important. BUT, perception of speed is important to me. The Type R has street cred, thats what I know Im buying into. Its a Honda, but its a honda thats not living up to the heritage of the R badge. So with the Focus, with the BIG turbo dial on top of the dash, the TURBO in the badge, it says its got lots of omph. so if its performance, then the 5 is my choice.
2) Spacious - The R has more space in the front, but at the sacrifice of the rear seats. so essentially its just a 2+2 set up. The ford loses a bit of foot space for rear seat space. The ford is also longer, so everyone is comfortable. Im 25 so a family is not on the list for me atm, but I do have mates and I also DO want a family someday, so as a lonjevity, the XR5 is the choice. For boot space, they both fold down. The 5 has more space but once you fold the seats down, the R can fold flat, the 5 doesnt, so the R tends to be a bit better in space.
3) Interior - Ok, this is a tricky one that is hard for me to figure out. The R looks Sexy, the ford has more toys. The ford has cloth or optional leather recaro seats, the R doesnt. Everytime I fold the chair on the R, it never goes back to where it was before and ALWAYS slides on its rails... WHY? Modern cars today dont do that anymore. The options to make the R look better are jsut too damn expensive. I wish I could get a carbon fibre look on the dash and Illuminated skuff plates just to add to that sense of rice, but the ford lets me buy coloured LED lights to attach to the floor wells so alraedy the ford is miles ahead.
4) Maintainence - well, Ive never heard maintainence issues with the XR5 nor the Type R. so Im quite sure they are quite reliable. There are a lot of XR5's in the ACT area and I've spoken to a few there and they work like normally aspirated cars. As for the Turbo, I've never owned one so Im not 100% on the maintainence on that. As for fuel, the one I drove was averaging at 7-8l/100kms on a normal drive. When I thrashed it, it was doing 10-12l/100kms. So Im pretty impressed.
So like you said Im pretty sure on the XR5 but Its jsut really hard to ignore the R. In fact, I just spoke to a Subaru dealer and a demo model hits my budget perfectly, its got more power, more torque and better cred than both cars. What I do know is that the WRX is sexier and what I love about it is that they are reliable as anything.
So when I see the subaru dealer, I might have to worry about a 3rd car. Damn
dude, you have the best way of expressing your thoughts - i'm 100% clear on how you feel about it - bet you aced yr 12 english :)
However, I think you shouldn't choose the car based on the little 'bits and pieces' because you will learn to deal with them when you have to live with it, i.e. the folding/sliding seats on the R.
You should choose the car based on the drive, the car that you feel 'at one' with, not for it's practicality - your driving a hot-hatch! They're not practical at all! and, what's stopping you from putting ur own bucket seats in the FN2? How do both cars go for aftermarket support?
is the Ford really that fast?
that seems to be your main argument for getting one but they weigh in at about 1450kg and115KW/tonne.
0-100 in 7.6 and the quarter in 15.5.
civic is 7.7 and 15.6. You really think you will notice the difference?
The Ford is a completely different car, 5 doors for a start, I think to base your decision on a split second difference is a bit silly.
do the new civic type r's only run mid-15s?? :eek: i thought they were faster...you're getting smoked by commodores, falcons, aurions, 380s, magnas, V6 accords, V6 camrys, and various other family sedans at that speed
balls to the wall they might have similar straight-line speed. but the XR5 has more low-down torque, which means that in everyday driving, trickling along under 3.5k - it's faster than the type r
I understand this point. But I never worried too much about power, I did however talk a lot about torque. There is just so much more in the WRX and the XR5 and at a lower RPM (4000 on the WRX and 1600-4000 on the XR5)Quote:
Originally Posted by mooshie
What I was trying to say is that the Ford feels like its going much more faster, whereas the R is just as fast but I never really felt anything.
In any case, power wasnt anything important to me, I made this very clear. But I do appretiate the turbo in the ford and the WRX, and I like the feel of the surge in the ford. I test drove both already and whilst the Honda is cool, I just wish it had more torque, thats all Im saying.
FORD stands for Found On Road Dead
I think we have a clear winner here WRX 2009 0-100 5.8 sec
MOTOR magazine today announced the Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive Impreza WRX has won Subaru’s fifth Bang For Your Bucks performance car title.
The ultimate test of the best performance cars on sale in Australia saw the Model Year 2009 Impreza WRX triumph against some expensive heavy metal and key competitors.
MOTOR says: “Proof that the writing was on the wall is that the WRX was more than half a second quicker to 100 km/h than anything else in this year’s BFYB.”
It adds: “The 2.5 litre boxer feels lustier than any WRX in recent memory. It spools up boost hard and early, delivering a thick 343 Nm of torque right where you need it. No peaks, no troughs, no dramas.”
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how about saving yourself 9 grand and buying this dudes car..
Honda are retarded when it comes to new cars now. the k20a engine is one of their best motors, they just havn't put it in the right car.
how abt a mazda 3 mps! mps>fn2r/xr5 anyday!!!
40-45k price bracket too..
i didnt bother reading through the entire thread, as i saw noobs comparing the XR5 to australian made fords such as falcons and territorys, which are absolutely miles apart in every sense. then i also spotted someone tell you that if you were to crash, the parts would take longer to come for the ford as its european made... this was yet another fail comment as so is the FN2.
no offence, but asking this question on a honda forum is probably one of the dumbest things you can do. people on forums are really narrow-minded towards their own brand of car, and to them, everything else is shit.
imo, both cars are great, and are very similar in many ways, however the edge that the turbo has is enough to make it the better car to me. this however could be a personal preference and performance may not be much of an issue to you, in which id still say the ford because it is actually more refined and comfortable than the type r, but im guessing you already knew this too.
see if you can take both for extended test drives, drive the routes you would drive on a day to day basis, at the times in which you would do it, and see which one better tends to your needs.
good luck mate, but at the end of the day, they are both great cars and you cant really go wrong!